I need your help.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 04:58 PM

I am a forum member on several websites. I have been learning for a long time.

I am ready to start pushing forward but I choose not to because I do not trust any of the "sources".

It seems older/more experienced members of each website push their "board sponsors" and will defend the quality of their board sponsor's research chemicals NO MATTER WHAT.

They also all seem to have a couple unofficial board sponsors that takes care of all their gear needs.

I am not going to name names. But I know for a fact, some of the products these board sponsors/unofficial sponsors are selling bunk shit.

I started a thread where I proved how this "board sponsor" company was completely misrepresenting its IGF1 lr3 and false marketing it to uneducated consumer as something it wasn't. They were producing fake success threads about it, making fake profiles claiming they ordered it and it was good when it really wasn't. They were pushing it as the highest quality possible, when really it wasn't pharmaceutical grade, it was media grade at best. $180 dollars for 1mg, but after doing more research I found other companies selling 1mg of media grade IGF1 for $600 to $700. Even though I was breaking no rules of the thread it was deleted once I exposed how this company was lying about its product. The thread was deleted by moderators. This was the sacred "board sponsor" for this forum.

Why do these members defend their "board sponsors" even when I know what they have isn't good product?

what is the deal with UGL's....

People are saying these are g2g, but my intuition tells me otherwise. I hear so many positive reviews about certain ones but am able to find plenty of negative reviews as well. So until I understand everything better I am not making a move.

I am not interested in PH's. Only gear and peptides. Do not PM me trying to sell me something.

Give me some insight please.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:03 PM

Hmmm. Were you the one who posted a video of Rich Piana stating that you can't get IGF1 online?

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:04 PM

yesz

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:05 PM

Well, you were told exactly why you're being unfair. We all know that rich piana was generalizing, and yet you chose to single out ar-r with no experience. Piana said nothing about ar-r. You injected that into your analogy.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:06 PM

Not to mention, you forgot to tell everyone that this event did not happen on this forum.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:08 PM

I was trying to leave that out of this.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

I was trying to leave that out of this.

Why are you targeting ar-r ? Rich Piana did not target them, why are you singling them out?

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Why are you targeting ar-r? Rich Piana did not target them, why are you singling them out?

I did not post them in this thread.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

This was the sacred "board sponsor" for this forum.

^ give me a break man. If you want to have a real conversation, let's not bullshit around. We only have ONE chem sponsor. So yes, you did. And on the other board you specifically and in your thread title targeted RUI, same company.

Now, tell me EXACTLY what about my response to you on the other board did you find unsatisfactory?

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-22-2013, 05:21 PM

Ahh I saw that over there as well. Your that douchebag. What has your panties in a knot?

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

^ give me a break man. If you want to have a real conversation, let's not bullshit around. We only have ONE chem sponsor. So yes, you did. And on the other board you specifically and in your thread title targeted RUI, same company.

Now, tell me EXACTLY what about my response to you on the other board did you find unsatisfactory?

people in this forum would not have known I was talking about that forum or the RC that I was talking about. that was the whole point of this thread, I wanted to get a different perspective. see what other users takes on the issues where. I have read just as many bad reviews about CEM products as I have good. BUT it seems on certain forums that the bad reviews get deleted about CEM while the good ones are allowed to stay.

Your response on the other forum I agreed with. I unfairly singled them out. Did not do this on purpose. It was because I had not looked into any other RC companies as much as I had that one.

I was wrong for singleing them out, but in this thread on this website nobody would have known who I was talking about until you brought them in.

MY whole objective of this was trying to determine why there is a bias on every forum website. What is the benefit of to the mods/users of keeping that bias the way it is?

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

people in this forum would not have known I was talking about that forum or the RC that I was talking about. that was the whole point of this thread, I wanted to get a different perspective. see what other users takes on the issues where. I have read just as many bad reviews about CEM products as I have good. BUT it seems on certain forums that the bad reviews get deleted about CEM while the good ones are allowed to stay.

Your response on the other forum I agreed with. I unfairly singled them out. Did not do this on purpose. It was because I had not looked into any other RC companies as much as I had that one.

I was wrong for singleing them out, but in this thread on this website nobody would have known who I was talking about until you brought them in.

MY whole objective of this was trying to determine why there is a bias on every forum website. What is the benefit of to the mods/users of keeping that bias the way it is?

You did not answer my question. I replied twice, once in response to your unfair targeting, and another to explain why your theory is fruitless, tell me what you found unsatisfactory about my confidence in Ar-r ?

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-22-2013, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

I was trying to leave that out of this.

Aww arehnt youthe superhero. Do you belong to the justice league?
I dont see it that way here ....do you ?

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:24 PM

its not just a bias toward RUI. some forums have a bias toward this one but have a strong dislike toward another one. it depends on the forum I have noticed. and I don't get it.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You did not answer my question. I replied twice, once in response to your unfair targeting, and another to explain why your theory is fruitless, tell me what you found unsatisfactory about my confidence in Ar-r?

I don't understand why you have full confidence.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

its not just a bias toward RUI. some forums have a bias toward this one but have a strong dislike toward another one. it depends on the forum I have noticed. and I don't get it.

You think we're stupid? You SPECIFICALLY stated "THE SPONSOR ON THIS FORUM". What does that tell anyone with half a brain?

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

I don't understand why you have full confidence.

Really? Because that's not what you said on the other forum. You actually agreed with me and made a point that the topic was over and that you understand. So now I'm confused why you say you don't understand. So tell me EXACTLY what is it that you don't understand so that I can explain again.

Get into details with me. No more pvssy footing around with short/incomplete responses please. Let's put this to rest, now.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:31 PM

im confused what were arguing about at this point lol..

let me put it this way

************ likes = ag guys
anabolic minds = seems to be unbiased
ology likes = rui

etc...

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:34 PM

Why can't you have a normal conversation? I asked you to tell me exactly what you found about my statement to be unsatisfactory? You started this thread, help me finish it. If you refuse to converse, you are only showing that you have some hidden agenda to call them out for no reason.

Speak to me like a human being and stop being repetitive with these irrelevant responses.

Answer the question. I'm begging you.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Really? Because that's not what you said on the other forum. You actually agreed with me and made a point that the topic was over and that you understand. So now I'm confused why you say you don't understand. So tell me EXACTLY what is it that you don't understand so that I can explain again.

Get into details with me. No more pvssy footing around with short/incomplete responses please. Let's put this to rest, now.

im still ****in sketched out on the entire issue.. like this dude says all igf on the internet is fake..

but then everybody on the forum says RUI is the best no way in hell there shit isn't good..

I ask my uncle who used to be mr.arizona what he thinks and he says he has no clue cuz he's never used igf..

and then everyone is like if you can't afford to risk 200 bucks you shouldn't be doing this..

I am a waitor man.. 200 bucks is like a Friday night 8hour shift for me, I am paying for my college and my apartment and tbh I don't have time to throw away 200 bucks.

I want to purchase with CONFIDENCE..

that's the 100% no bullshitting around.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Why can't you have a normal conversation? I asked you to tell me exactly what you found about my statement to be unsatisfactory? You started this thread, help me finish it. If you refuse to converse, you are only showing that you have some hidden agenda to call them out for no reason.

Speak to me like a human being and stop being repetitive with these irrelevant responses.

Answer the question. I'm begging you.

Lol I Swear with god as my witness I have no hidden agenda. Iv been sketched you've had a hidden agenda tbh.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

im still ****in sketched out on the entire issue.. like this dude says all igf on the internet is fake..

but then everybody on the forum says RUI is the best no way in hell there shit isn't good..

I ask my uncle who used to be mr.arizona what he thinks and he says he has no clue cuz he's never used igf..

and then everyone is like if you can't afford to risk 200 bucks you shouldn't be doing this..

I am a waitor man.. 200 bucks is like a Friday night 8hour shift for me, I am paying for my college and my apartment and tbh I don't have time to throw away 200 bucks.

I want to purchase with CONFIDENCE..

that's the 100% no bullshitting around.

He also says not to use HCG on cycle. Also starts a topic on supplements and discusses ZERO supplements. Also states that You don't need PCT. And a host of other ill-informed youtube posts. So you chose to believe this single post of his?

Scammers are short lived. Ar-r chose this as their career path and they have families to feed and mounting bills just like the rest of us. Why would they scam us? I've been dealing with chem site since the internet came about and they went online. I've seen tons of sites come and go. Why do you think ar-r has longevity in the industry? Simple. Loyalty. They provide a good product and exceptional service. There are plenty of 3rd party reviews on this site and others with actual blood work to prove their product is legitimate.

I have no idea why you decided to change your mind and suddenly flooding every forum with this nonsense. Believe me, it's nonsense because your accusations are inexperienced and make no sense.

Furthermore; ar-r contacts several members from time to time to review products for them. They have NO PROBLEMS EVER seeing or reading reviews, positive or negative. Not everything works for everyone. GW1516, doesn't do anything for me. But others swear by it. There are both good and bad reviews for everything. But you are being cruel and unfair to single them out with no experience.

If you are in college and can't afford much, then maybe focus on school and forget steroids and chem sites. Makes sense?

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You think we're stupid? You SPECIFICALLY stated "THE SPONSOR ON THIS FORUM". What does that tell anyone with half a brain?

you misinterpreted how I said "the sponsor on this forum"... I was referring to the ''this forum" as the one I was talking about in my story...

not this specific forum that we are reading right now.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 05:48 PM

Jeez man. Polly wanna cracker?? It's time that you start making your own decisions from experience and facts, rather than repeating random statements you've heard here and there. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff but I'd be embarrassed to post any claims without backing it up.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Jeez man. Polly wanna cracker?? It's time that you start making your own decisions from experience and facts, rather than repeating random statements you've heard here and there. I have no idea where you come up with this stuff but I'd be embarrassed to post any claims without backing it up.

im not embarrassed because this is the internet and nobody on this knows who I am in real life so I could care less. the internet is just another resource for knowledge to me. I don't care about my reputation on it at all lol. I have nobody to turn to in real life about this because

1. I don't want anybody knowing this is the route I am choosing to go down.

2. My uncle is the only one who has a strong understanding of this stuff but I don't want him knowing this is the route I am going down so I can't ask him specifics about anything.

3. My friends who do lift do prohormones which I think are completely retarted so they have little knowledge of this stuff and they are all like 19-23 years old.

I took Rich pianas or whatev the **** his name take on the subject just as much as I do DreDay's or halfwit's or the other people on these forums with just as much weight, I weigh everyone's opinion out equally and find what the general consensus is from that, because in the end everyone is just a resource for me to learn how the **** to do this all the right way.

**kelkel** · 08-22-2013, 06:01 PM

You're in college and money is an issue. So, put your hard earned money into proper nutrition, train hard and you'll make progress. When money isn't so tight and you're out of school take the leap. Until then, just eat, train and school. It'll pay off in the end.

Prioritize.

And now back to normal programming.

**crazy mike** · 08-22-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by acaciastrain93x

you misinterpreted how I said "the sponsor on this forum"... I was referring to the ''this forum" as the one I was talking about in my story...

not this specific forum that we are reading right now.

Then please clarify that you do or don't have a problem with this forum we are on now. This way a bystander like me can understand who you are NOT talking about. That's all ....crazy mike

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 06:02 PM

im not sure how I come across to you, probably an idiot and rightfully so, but I have no hidden agenda, just trying to figure everything out perfectly before I start dishing out hunderds of dollars.

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 06:03 PM

You're not weighing anything. You're making false accusations and your theory in its entirety has nothing to do with results, but simply speaking of bunk gear by sponsors that you have zero experience with. And your uncle is irrelivant to the topic since you already said he has no experience.

If you wanted to learn how to do it right, your topic would be about how to do it right. Not why are sponsors scammers.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Then please clarify that you do or don't have a problem with this forum we are on now. This way a bystander like me can understand who you are NOT talking about. That's all ....crazy mike

I have collectively spent about 2 hours on this forum in my entire life lol, I didn't even realize Rui was the board sponsor till austinite pointed it out, I have zero problem with this forum, I have zero problem with any forum. I may have been slightly disillusioned and constructed a somewhat 'conspiracy theory' in my head though for some time in regards to what I saw on a youtube video.

**acaciastrain93x** · 08-22-2013, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You're not weighing anything. You're making false accusations and your theory in its entirety has nothing to do with results, but simply speaking of bunk gear by sponsors that you have zero experience with. And your uncle is irrelivant to the topic since you already said he has no experience.

If you wanted to learn how to do it right, your topic would be about how to do it right. Not why are sponsors scammers.

you would think otherwise if you had read all my old threads on ology

**austinite** · 08-22-2013, 06:07 PM

This is exactly why your threads get deleted and/or closed. Because you make stupid accusations without any evidential back up. Therefore; you're simply a troublemaker. You can't go around attempting to cause damage without backing up the nonsense you spew. Be fair to others so that you're treated fairly. Get some experience under your belt. I get that you're only 20 years old, but man... even when I was 20, I never did any sabotaging like this. Shame on you for not supporting what you claim.

That's the case here, and exactly what will happen. Go get some facts and come back with an intelligent post.