Beginner dosage help

[Armlegman]

Hey guys i'm just about to start my second cycle and i'm sort of following a stack that is recommended on here. Was just wondering when it comes to dosage EOD stands for "every other day" am I right? What does that mean. For example it says 125mg/eod of prop, So how often is eod? Thanks for your help!

[Gaspaco]

Every other day you pinn 125mg

[Armlegman]

What do you mean by every other day? so every 2nd day i'm pinning it, or everyday? I don't get it.

[clarky.]

What do you mean by every other day? so every 2nd day i'm pinning it, or everyday? I don't get it.

Yes eod is every 2nd day

[Armlegman]

Sweet thanks! And when running Prop with tren, it says 125mg of prop eod, and 50mg of tren eod, how would you do that? Would you jab prop one day and tren the next? or jab prop n tren on say Monday, no jab Tuesday, then prop and tren again wed and so forth? What would you recommend?

[clarky.]

They both get pinned together in the same barrel eod by the sounds of it mate your not ready for this and trens not for a second cycle you should take your time and educate your self what is your stats ?

[Armlegman]

186cm, 84kg, 11% bf, Been lifting consistently for 4 years, done one cycle before where I was running 2000mg prop a week, and 1000mg sustanon a week. Now want to put on abit more size but also lean out abit, what would you recommend I do?

[itsjayman02]

186cm, 84kg, 11% bf, Been lifting consistently for 4 years, done one cycle before where I was running 2000mg prop a week, and 1000mg sustanon a week. Now want to put on abit more size but also lean out abit, what would you recommend I do?

Complete overload !!

You should not even consider a 2nd cycle until you learn more about the dosage and compounds you are subjecting your body to!!

[clarky.]

186cm, 84kg, 11% bf, Been lifting consistently for 4 years, done one cycle before where I was running 2000mg prop a week, and 1000mg sustanon a week. Now want to put on abit more size but also lean out abit, what would you recommend I do?

That's a fvcking mad dose when was your last cycle ? did you use hcg AI and do pct ? what about blood work ?

[Armlegman]

Sorry typo I meant 200mg and 100mg

[Armlegman]

And used Nolvadex for pct. Last cycle was like 30 weeks ago

[clarky.]

Sorry typo I meant 200mg and 100mg

edited sorry never seen the age the most important thing aswell.

[marcus300]

Do you have any idea what you are doing and damage you could cause at 19 yrs old when your HPTA HASNT FULLY DEVELOPED?

DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS WHAT SO EVER, if you cant gain weight and muscle at your age and age then you wont on steroids, its alo plain to see you have no idea what your taking or doing, this is insane and you will pay the price for being stupid with your natural test, you should never shut down your natural test at 19 yrs when its not full developed.


There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus