Heu guys newbie to the site looking for knowledge.

[Brads_12]

Hey guys,

Firstly id like to start off by saying i have been reading and researching Steroid forums for the last 10 - 12 months now and think this forum has the most experienced and knowledgeable members to learn from.

I have been training for the last 18 months, 5 days a week and the 3 years prior on and off. I have put on about 30lbs in the last 12 months. with my diet in check. Im a hard gainer and have always been lean with low BF, I considered using steroids at the age of 21 but, being honestly shit scared of them i researched my arse off on this forum and decided to wait. but due to my plateau in size and wait gains I am looking back into cycling. Genetically i think i have reached my full potential as I am the same height as everyone else in my family and bigger then everyone else too.

Im now 23 and a half, 199.4 pounds, 6ft, 12% Body fat and feeling ready for my first cycle.
Im looking for honest and experienced opinions.

I was just going to start my cycle based on my knowledge from this forum but decided to join to help me along the way.

As of work restrictions I will only be able to inject once a week. For this reason I have chosen Test Enanthate. due to the longer half life. looking to keep it simple for the first cycle

Weeks 1-4
D-Bol 30mg

weeks 1-12
500mg Test Enanthate EW

PCT
Begins wk 14 to wk 18

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

I already have all this purchased along with the essentials to start my first cycle.

Please share your opinions and ask questions s Im willing to learn!

Cheers!

[crazy mike]

Right away before anything and you're going to do what you want BUT WHERE IS YOUR AI ??. ...crazy mike

[Brads_12]

HI Mike nice to meet ya and thanks for the reply!

Im not one of those arrogant kids who is going to do this cycle anyway no matter what. Im chasing knowledge from those who know. so I can gather enough information to make my decision based on what i have learned!
I have Seen hundreds Of TOO YOUNG, start piss off comments but honestly they dont help anyone learn anything except get people on the defensive side and shut off to these forums
I know 23 and a half in some cases are to young, also alot of information saying 24 Is plenty old enough. Im not rushing into the cycle i want to learn as much as I can first!

An AI is to controll Gyno sides right.. from what i have read Nolvadex is used during the cycle if Gyno occurs?

Cheers

[Cuz]

no, you don't want to use nolva during cycle. Some have but I wouldn't recommend it. Pick up some arimidex and start at .25 mcg every other day and go from there. You will need BW in order to see were your levels are running. Hit up the site sponsor, they are great.

[crazy mike]

No, no, no. You need to do some research on Estrogen levels. Your Ai use it to help control the high rise in your E2 level. High E2 can be harmful in many ways not just in Gyno. Please read more on that. So I'll get to the quick short point. Use an Ai to keep your E2 level by that and watching your blood. Don't keep it on hand. If Gyno begins you then not only have to stop it but you may have to be trying to reverse any damage. It is simple prevention, maintenance. Don't wait be ahead of the problem . Also you would use Nolva for PCT as you know and not during your cycle.
If you get a bad case you can use your AI and Nolva to help reduce or hopefully reverse the sides. ...crazy mike

Gotta get BW

[crazy mike]

Brads, there are sticky's on this forum that explain about AI and Estrogen etc... Please go read more before you start. Austinite has an article on this very thing. Getting ready to start a cycle. So much good info on here. Go back now and read up. Then ask more Q's and get your full proposal posted again. ...crazy mike

[Brads_12]

Yes for sure I will get blood work done for sure before ever starting, to make sure i bounce back to normal levels once cycled off. As for the arimidex i will look into that and see if I can get my hands on it!

What are your reasons for arimidex instead of nolva? i know arimidex is a Aromatise Inhibitor not a serm and i get how they both work. But Arimidex is the best option why? Does it work more efficient to Nolva?

CHeers Chad

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[Brads_12]

Yeah awesome Guys will check it out! also Genetically speaking im 6ft 200lbs 12% body fat and have plateaued im currently on Gainer shakes 50/50 carbs n protein, creatine, L-glutemine and xtend. any more natural supplements you recommend I try before starting?

[crazy mike]

Listen brads. You don't take Nolva during a cycle. You use an anti-aromatase to control you Estradiol levels all the way thru. High Test will increase your Estrogen. high blood pressure and other sides. You are off base with what you are thinking. I will stop here and tell you please research as you said you have. But you don't seem to have it all or even the basics. No offense...please back up and research. ...crazy mike

[drake4243]

If you want to be smart and safe like you say for any cycle of 12 weeks you should be running HCG 250ius twice a week 3.5 days apart right up to 3 days before your PCT starts. I personally would never run any cycle without this. Aside from that after you add your AI you will be gtg. good luck.

[crazy mike]

Yeah awesome Guys will check it out! also Genetically speaking im 6ft 200lbs 12% body fat and have plateaued im currently on Gainer shakes 50/50 carbs n protein, creatine, L-glutemine and xtend. any more natural supplements you recommend I try before starting?

If you are serious you will also go over to the nutrition side and get your diet dialed in before you start. Your diet will make dominate your gains. Good luck ...crazy mike

[Brads_12]

Cheers for the input mike no offence taken, Like i said earlier im here to learn! will go back through and keep researching. I know its nearly impossible to tell because everyone is different but, i guess what is on average a good healthy weight i should be aiming for naturally?

I never used supplements only clean eating, but due to no increase in gains the last 6 weeks ive tried protein/carbs shakes to increase calories further.

[crazy mike]

Ha, I am not the one to talk to for nutrition But I can attest that poor diet and lack of calories (the right balance) will ruin any cycle you get into. Be cool and research more... ...crazy mike

[Brads_12]

Hi drake, I have read and understand the reasons for using arimidex, I have read a few threads and most of them recommend .25 eod. Is it necessary to run it through your whole cycle or only if sides occur. Different threads have conflicting information? Opinions?

[crazy mike]

Hi drake, I have read and understand the reasons for using arimidex, I have read a few threads and most of them recommend .25 eod. Is it necessary to run it through your whole cycle or only if sides occur. Different threads have conflicting information? Opinions?

I will speak up again because I have experience in this. I will tell you that you don't know if you are susceptible to Gyno or not. You don't know when it will happen or if it will. Ai is also used to help keep your BW in check. Help keep you E2 down. BW if you can stay with it will help you monitor.
The people that don't get Gyno and don't run Ai are happy , I guess. The people who don't run an AI and have Estrogen problems and get Gyno wish the fuk they ran an Ai. It's up to you. But more reason to run then not. I haven't been given a good reason not to , yet, but . ...crazy mike

[Brads_12]

I will speak up again because I have experience in this. I will tell you that you don't know if you are susceptible to Gyno or not. You don't know when it will happen or if it will. Ai is also used to help keep your BW in check. Help keep you E2 down. BW if you can stay with it will help you monitor.
The people that don't get Gyno and don't run Ai are happy , I guess. The people who don't run an AI and have Estrogen problems and get Gyno wish the fuk they ran an Ai. It's up to you. But more reason to run then not. I haven't been given a good reason not to , yet, but . ...crazy mike

Yeah it sounds like a good idea to me to run an AI through my first cycle, however as it is my first cycle is it a good idea to run with out it at first and see how I react to the test first? As I may not get sides from such a basic cycle. Or is it essential to run arimidex to keep e2 levels in check? Can you begin to take arimidex once you start to occur symptoms through a cycle or is it to late by this stage? There's so much conflicting information out there!

[crazy mike]

Yeah it sounds like a good idea to me to run an AI through my first cycle, however as it is my first cycle is it a good idea to run with out it at first and see how I react to the test first? As I may not get sides from such a basic cycle. Or is it essential to run arimidex to keep e2 levels in check? Can you begin to take arimidex once you start to occur symptoms through a cycle or is it to late by this stage? There's so much conflicting information out there!

I don't think you will get conflicting info here. Did you read the suggested beginners cycle's 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices. Listen it isn't just Gyno control. You Estrogen level is going up when your Test level goes up. Also it is the Test that will be the culprit. You are not listening. So Start reading on Estrogen levels, Gyno, prostrate etc... Read about high E2 levels. I'm sorry but give me a reason why you would wait until you have a problem. Run AI with all test cycles. I'm not here to convince you. start getting sides and then ask for help. Simple Simon as I said preventative medicine. Now Good luck. ...crazy mike