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    Lightbulb Beginner cycle, thoughts?

    Little bit of a background, I am 18 (I know that is very young and I shouldn't consider steroids yet, yada yada..). I have been steadily working out since I was 15 so I have 3 relatively consistent years under my belt. Before you tell me how stupid I am for wanting to cycle, know that I am not going to start this for another 2 and a half years, during which I will continue to lift and study the topic. Ive been researching this for a little less than a year and just wanted to get some opinions on this cycle I've come up with to see if I have the right Idea.

    WEEK:
    1-10 Test E (500mg/week Mon/Thurs.)
    1-8 Dbol (40mg ED)
    *Nolva on hand in case of any Estrogen related problems. 20mg daily until symptoms cease

    PCT:
    10-13 HCG (E5D 2000 IU)
    11-13 Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
    14 Nolva 10mg ED

    A simple cycle for the most part. I feel I have the cycle down and I am confident in it. My main concern is with the PCT and if that is a reasonable PCT to begin with. I was also thinking of adding arimidex in the PCT but wouldn't know where to use it relative to the others, how much to use, and how long to use it.

    Thoughts greatly appreciated, Dwood801.

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    Hey man you seem to be in the same boat as me welcome to the forum, as i have just learned you might wanna check out the sticky threads on pct Ya Need an AI.. Nolvadex is not the answer as i have just learned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brads_12 View Post
    Hey man you seem to be in the same boat as me welcome to the forum, as i have just learned you might wanna check out the sticky threads on pct Ya Need an AI.. Nolvadex is not the answer as i have just learned!
    So you're stating that Nolva is not the best AI to keep on hand while cycling? Another question I had is should an AI be taken consistently even if estrogen symptoms aren't persisting?

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    Dangerous territory at 18 years old. I would reconsider, heavily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Dangerous territory at 18 years old. I would reconsider, heavily.
    Understood, stated later in the post that I am waiting another two and a half years to implement the cycle. Should be nearing age 21.

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    You really won't get approval until age 25.

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    Is it safe to say this cycle is good to go? It seems the only problem with this is I am not at the ideal age which I understand. I've heard about 25 being the best age to start and I am relatively aware of the risks that are involved with starting sooner. For that reason I've decided to wait a few years.

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    As I have just learned nolvadex is a serm not an AI.. Nolvadex basically can help symptoms once they occur, where as arimidex stops the problem at the cause before it begins. Nolvadex is used as a pct, not for sides affects during cycle. On the flip side where im learning too if your running a basic first timers cycle which u stated u are.. You may not get side affects, therefore not needing arimidex, I guess you won't really know until you try it. Or if its a case or prevention is better then cure.. Someone with more understanding will clarify this!

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    As for dosages what I can find is .25mg every other day is recommended.. Most pills I have found are 1mg. So a quarter of a pill every other day through your cycle should prevent sides in most cases! But it's still a case of if you don't get sides from your cycle are you just talking another drug for no reason at more expense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brads_12 View Post
    As for dosages what I can find is .25mg every other day is recommended.. Most pills I have found are 1mg. So a quarter of a pill every other day through your cycle should prevent sides in most cases! But it's still a case of if you don't get sides from your cycle are you just talking another drug for no reason at more expense?
    Thanks for the advice. What you're saying definitely makes sense. I'm going to keep some amiridex on hand rather than finding out if I will react to the test. Better safe than sorry eh?

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    Hears the deal. You know you are two young, but you want to plan this thing two years in advance. You plan and you get impatient and the what. Stick around and your questions will get answered in 2-1/2 years. An inane question. ...crazy mike

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