Looking for ideas for my next cycle

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Hello,

1st/2nd cycle sust 250 ew for 10 weeks.
3rd cycle test e 250 ew and eq 300 ew for 10 weeks.
4th cycle test e 500 ew and eq 600 ew weeks 1-10 and whinny 50 eod weeks 8-12.

I'm planing on doing my 5th cycle and wanted some ideas of what would be the best stack to gaing as much lean mass that will stay on. My last cycle was 5 months ago I've never had problems with side effects.

28 years old
5'9
170lbs
Around 8% bf
I've been working out for the last 10 years off and on.

[Capebuffalo]

Your 5 th cycle @ 170 lbs? You need to get a better grasp on your diet. IMO
I would go to the nutrition section an get some help.

[austinite]

You're very light....... need nutrition help. If you insist.. Try playing with Test/NPP/Tbol.

[Back In Black]

What did you weigh on day one of your first cycle?

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Before my first shot I was 145 I've tried lots of diets it's just hard for me to put on weight. My last cycle was 5 months ago I lost 5lbs since that cycle.

[Back In Black]

If you can't put on weight it's because you don't eat enough. No matter how many calories you eat.

What's your lean mass gain diet look like?

[austinite]

If you can't put on weight it's because you don't eat enough. No matter how many calories you eat.

What's your lean mass gain diet look like?

True. Steroids will do nothing really if you're not eating enough. Literally, no lean gain.

[Thibodeauxdj21]

I try to get around 4000 cal 350g protein and 300g carbs.

[Back In Black]

I try to get around 4000 cal 350g protein and 300g carbs.

And if you fail to get that then what do you get? It's complete overkill on protein and a whopping amount of fat.

What results have you been getting off cycle with that diet?

[Capebuffalo]

I try to get around 4000 cal 350g protein and 300g carbs.

Please please list everything you ate yesterday.

[Capebuffalo]

So that's 1400 cals from protein
And 1200 cals from carbs
So that leaves fat 1400 cals from fat a day? Hum

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Breakfast- 5 boiled eggs boast high protien shake
Snack-myoplex shake
Lunch-two cans tuna
Snack-two bannans
Dinner-4 talipa felays and about cup of Mac&cheese
Snack-myoplex shake

[Capebuffalo]

Breakfast- 5 boiled eggs boast high protien shake
Snack-myoplex shake
Lunch-two cans tuna
Snack-two bannans
Dinner-4 talipa felays and about cup of Mac&cheese
Snack-myoplex shake

That's only 2 meals for some guys around here.
You have that calculated at 4k cals?
You need to go to the nutrition section and get your diet on track.

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Last cycle was my best gain I put on 13lbs but lost 5 from then to now

[Back In Black]

Breakfast- 5 boiled eggs boast high protien shake
Snack-myoplex shake
Lunch-two cans tuna
Snack-two bannans
Dinner-4 talipa felays and about cup of Mac&cheese
Snack-myoplex shake

Where does 350g protein come from?
or 300g carbs for that matter?
Or over 100g fat?

That looks about half of the 4000cals you state.

[base4291ball]

Breakfast- 5 boiled eggs boast high protien shake
Snack-myoplex shake
Lunch-two cans tuna
Snack-two bannans
Dinner-4 talipa felays and about cup of Mac&cheese
Snack-myoplex shake

I still don't see 350g of protein...maybe 200 lol & most of that coming from shakes. You want the majority of your protein consumption coming from you meats like 99% FF turkey, chicken breast, tuna, tilapia, etc.

[Thibodeauxdj21]

Ok thanks for the advice ill look into getting on a stricter diet but what would y'all suggest for my next cycle with my new diet?

[Back In Black]

Ok thanks for the advice ill look into getting on a stricter diet but what would y'all suggest for my next cycle with my new diet?

I'd suggest formulating a diet, with the help of our nutrition section, and running it without the use of AAS to try and see what happens.

[Thibodeauxdj21]

K thanks!

[OnTheSauce]

Breakfast- 5 boiled eggs boast high protien shake
Snack-myoplex shake
Lunch-two cans tuna
Snack-two bannans
Dinner-4 talipa felays and about cup of Mac&cheese
Snack-myoplex shake

Problem, solved. You aren't eating. I eat this much by 10am

[Capebuffalo]

This is what 4 k cals looks like. Shakes should be replaced with real food
Tis was first one I found for an example.

Meal 1
2 scoops of whey protein
12 ounces of 2% milk
1 banana
1 serving of natural peanut butter

Meal 2
4 whole eggs and 2 egg whites
1 serving of oatmeal with butter or yogurt
Bagel with cream cheese or toast

Meal 3
8-10 ounces of steak
1 sweet potato
1 serving of rice

Meal 4
8-10 ounces of ground beef
1 serving of whole wheat pasta



Meal 5
8-10 ounces of fish for chicken
1.5 servings of rice
cup of veggies or salad

Meal 6
2 scoops of whey protein with flax or 2 scoops of casein protein
12 ounces of 2% milk
1 banana

[base4291ball]

This is what 4 k cals looks like. Shakes should be replaced with real food
Tis was first one I found for an example.

Meal 1
2 scoops of whey protein
12 ounces of 2% milk
1 banana
1 serving of natural peanut butter

Meal 2
4 whole eggs and 2 egg whites
1 serving of oatmeal with butter or yogurt
Bagel with cream cheese or toast

Meal 3
8-10 ounces of steak
1 sweet potato
1 serving of rice

Meal 4
8-10 ounces of ground beef
1 serving of whole wheat pasta

Meal 5
8-10 ounces of fish for chicken
1.5 servings of rice
cup of veggies or salad

Meal 6
2 scoops of whey protein with flax or 2 scoops of casein protein
12 ounces of 2% milk
1 banana

We have the same diet, like identical. To the point..

[Back In Black]

We have the same diet, like identical. To the point..

You both need more veggies

[Capebuffalo]

You both need more veggies

Meal 5 has a cup of veggies. That's a serving.

[base4291ball]

Meal 5 has a cup of veggies. That's a serving.

Meal 3 & 5 do for me

[Back In Black]

Meal 5 has a cup of veggies. That's a serving.

Meal 3 & 5 do for me

Hmmmmm, Cape be a good boy for papa and eat a few more

base, you could eat a few more too. Maybe.

Obviously I don't know how much either of you eat in a sitting but I eat veggies in 3 meals and fruit in one of my other meals. I don't think many of us eat enough veggies or enough variety to try and take care of our micronutrients.

[base4291ball]

I've always considered fruits and veggies as fillers. That's what's a multi is for haha but I still do eat fruit & veggies cuz their good! Lol fruit just has lots if sugar :/

[Back In Black]

I've always considered fruits and veggies as fillers. That's what's a multi is for haha but I still do eat fruit & veggies cuz their good! Lol fruit just has lots if sugar :/

Yeah, you have to include fruit in you macro's. and you need a damn good muti bit and mineral to make up for an array of healthy veg. Having said that there are plenty of people, even in the civilised Western world, who barely eat any veggies. Even though they eat excessive calories they are still malnourished.

Cape, hops in beer don't count btw

[OnTheSauce]

Hmmmmm, Cape be a good boy for papa and eat a few more

base, you could eat a few more too. Maybe.

Obviously I don't know how much either of you eat in a sitting but I eat veggies in 3 meals and fruit in one of my other meals. I don't think many of us eat enough veggies or enough variety to try and take care of our micronutrients.

I'm def guilty of this.

[Back In Black]

I'm def guilty of this.

It's always the first thing we omit from our diet. Particularly when bulking and eating becomes a chore, who needs 'fillers' when you are permanently full?! Juicers can be good for these times.