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    My first cycle...

    Hey everybody been reading a long time planning my first trip to the dark side.

    I am 28 years old, 5'8 170 lbs and 10% body fat. 1rm 275 bench, 345 squat, and 3rm of 405 on deads. I have been training seriously for three, on and off for six years.

    I've decided to run test e with an oral kick start of dbol.

    Week1-4 25 mg dbol ED, 250 mg test e 2x a week
    Week 5-12 250mg test e 2x a week

    Adex on hand. Wondering if I should wait until sides start to run or just run .25 mg EOD right off the bat.

    Week 13-14 nothing but the .25 mg of Adex EOD.

    Week 15-18 75/50/50/50 Clomid 40/20/20/20 Tamox
    When running dual should the tamox dosage be lower? I have heard alternating theories on this also.

    Will be using liv 52 to help with toxicity. Anything else good to add because of the oral? I don't like the oral but I just want to run it until the long ester kicks in, and I don't feel like pinning that much with a short ester.

    Training will be Wendlers 5/3/1 with a bodybuilding type assistance template. Since I want a nice blend of strength and muscular gains and I love this routine I think it is my best bet.

    As for nutrition. I am aiming for 2x bw protein. My BMR is about 2500 cals. I am going to start my bulk at 3200 cals. Since exercise hasn't been factored in yet. Adjust cals on a week to week basis. Not going into specifics but I have read a lot on nutrition and my diet has been pretty spot on to get down to 10% probably 8% by the time I start.

    So any and all criticism is welcome, also any suggestions and opinions are also very welcome.

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    I would drop the dbol. Use adex, not just on hand. Testosterone from day 1.

    Read this...

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
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    Good deal you're close.
    IMOP:
    Wk 1-4 Dbol 50mgs. 25mgs not enough
    Wk 1-12 Test E 500mg wk split
    Wk 1- till Pct Arimidex .25 mg EOD


    Never hold Adex on hand. Do not wait for high Estrogen and or Gyno side. Start on day 1.
    ...crazy mike

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