masteron vs. primobolan

[maddav99]

Runnin tren e and test e and would like to run something else to add some hardness. Trying to decide between mast and primo. Thinkin the mast cause it comes with a but of estrogen blocker but heard primo does too. A little real world feedback would be awesome. Thanks

[Mp859]

Runnin tren e and test e and would like to run something else to add some hardness. Trying to decide between mast and primo. Thinkin the mast cause it comes with a but of estrogen blocker but heard primo does too. A little real world feedback would be awesome. Thanks

How long have you been on?

I don't see a need to add something on top on tren for hardness personally.
I get leaner and harder on tren. And tren being the strongest compound here I don't see mast or primo making any noticeable difference unless you are very lean

[austinite]

Masteron and Primobolan are very similar with the exception of masteron being highly androgenic, unlike primo. I wouldn't worry about any anti estrogen properties. Use a primary blocker.

[crazy mike]

Would be good to know your stats. But with the Tren you really will not need a hardener. Use what you said ans diet and training. Train, train, train on Tren. ...crazy mike

[tgunn]

I sure love me some masteron so far..!!

Tren test mast would make an amazing cycle!
Low test+ high dose tren and mast..

You would be one big, hard, full muther fr. .!

[fit2bOld]

I sure love me some masteron so far..!!

Tren test mast would make an amazing cycle!
Low test+ high dose tren and mast..

You would be one big, hard, full muther fr. .!

And hair will fall out too.

[tgunn]

And hair will fall out too.

Definitely will speed up the process, if it's geneticly ment to happen.

Oh, and you would be a walking hard on.. nothing wrong with that.

[MR10X]

Definitely will speed up the process, if it's geneticly ment to happen.

Oh, and you would be a walking hard on.. nothing wrong with that.

Thats not entirely true,i have used a lot AAS over 30 years and the only time my hair fell out was when i added masteron on a test,tren,eq cycle.I am not predisposed to baldness. It did grow back when i quit the masteron.

[tgunn]

Thats not entirely true,i have used a lot AAS over 30 years and the only time my hair fell out was when i added masteron on a test,tren,eq cycle.I am not predisposed to baldness. It did grow back when i quit the masteron.

Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.

[Mp859]

Wrong thread

[< <Samson> >]

The mast did me good last time when I ran it with tren & little prop. Primo sounds great, but its even more pricey than mast.

I'm thinking mast, tren & prop are great to run on a cut. You gain LBM under a cal deficit while losing fat. Cool shit, made me aggressive as fvck for a bit too.

[Whiteboyy0]

How much experience did you guys have before taking masteron? I want to add it in on my 3rd or 4th in a year or 2

[Bonaparte]

Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.

That theory was disproved several years ago. The gene can be inherited from either side.

Anyways, if you're using Tren, then you probably aren't too worried about side effects. So just go with masteron, as you'll get more bang for your buck.

[MR10X]

Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.

My parents had heads full of hair,even at 70. I have a full head of hair,and after using a lot of steroids the only thing that ever made it fall out was masteron.This is actual experience and not bro science.......You can believe what you want but this my experience.....

[austinite]

Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.

[tgunn]

Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.

Me neither austinite. .

But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.

[austinite]

Me neither austinite. .

But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.

What's not a theory or science? I never made a reference to either..

[tgunn]

Sorry, that comment wasn't for you. I shouldn't have quoted you there.

[MR10X]

To clarify what i mean.If your are predisposed to baldness it will be adding fuel to the fire.Even If you are not predisposed to baldness it can make your hair fall out,it happened to me......Masteron has some serious side effects,such as what is mentioned and it also effects your prostrate and can cause enlargement.It has some good effects as mentioned here but to me unless your doing a contest it is not something that should be used.....unless you don't give a rats ass about your hair and prostrate......To say if your not predisposed to baldness it wont effect your hair line is not totally correct it may effect some people and in some it may not..

[tgunn]

Now that makes sense!

I feel masteron is far from just a contest prep drug though. I think it's the most underrated, misunderstood compound out there. It has far more benefits than just hardness capabilities impo.

[Othello]

Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.

I just shave it

[tgunn]

I just shave it

So do I.. I've been shaving it so long I don't remember what it looks like grown out...

[bigpen]

If you're wanting to run mast,prop and tren (which are three compounds I really like) then you'd be better buying one of the blends: 'One-rip' or 'Lean Gain' - both are dosed pretty strongly/ml.

[Bonaparte]

If you're wanting to run mast,prop and tren (which are three compounds I really like) then you'd be better buying one of the blends: 'One-rip' or 'Lean Gain' - both are dosed pretty strongly/ml.

But then you can't drop one if needed or adjust the doses individually.

[Bonaparte]

Me neither austinite. .

But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.

You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.

[austinite]

You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.

Wait a minute... What about gravity??????????

[Bonaparte]

Wait a minute... What about gravity??????????

That one is a scientific law

[gymfu]

To clarify what i mean.If your are predisposed to baldness it will be adding fuel to the fire.Even If you are not predisposed to baldness it can make your hair fall out,it happened to me......Masteron has some serious side effects,such as what is mentioned and it also effects your prostrate and can cause enlargement.It has some good effects as mentioned here but to me unless your doing a contest it is not something that should be used.....unless you don't give a rats ass about your hair and prostrate......To say if your not predisposed to baldness it wont effect your hair line is not totally correct it may effect some people and in some it may not..

Don't tell people their hair might fall out even if they're not predisposed to MPB, you probably are predisposed and don't know it. What your saying here is going against what we, and the scientific community, knows about AAS and MPB.
If you say this is your experence then fine I won't argue with you, but realize you are the first person I've read say what your saying.

Masteron is a GREAT compound

[bigpen]

But then you can't drop one if needed or adjust the doses individually.

True, but then I've topped up with individual bottles before if required. I find its a good cost effective base if you're keen on stacking all three.

[< <Samson> >]

True, but then I've topped up with individual bottles before if required. I find its a good cost effective base if you're keen on stacking all three.

I been looking into combo shots a bit. I like the usual "lean stack" if mast, tren & prop. I just don't like them equal. But, of course you can add in more. But, what if you want to drop one?

So individual compounds are still the best way to go IMO. It's just a little more oil & cost seems to be pretty much the same. It seems that it's made for ease if use to newbs.

[tgunn]

You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.

Awwwww shit.. I would definitely talk science with you all day long if I had my Kindle pal, but I'd have to type it all on this Stupid phone.

How did this get started anyway lol.. lets hear more about primo and mast and less about hair loss..

[MR10X]

Don't tell people their hair might fall out even if they're not predisposed to MPB, you probably are predisposed and don't know it. What your saying here is going against what we, and the scientific community, knows about AAS and MPB.
If you say this is your experence then fine I won't argue with you, but realize you are the first person I've read say what your saying.

Masteron is a GREAT compound

I was 64 when i used masteron,i think i would have know by then if i was predisposed to MPB.I have been using steroids for 30 years and the only compound that made my hair fall out was masteron. I have nothing to gain or lose by stating my personal experience,the key is that it is my experience and dont really care if you believe me or not.I have read a lot of post where people were losing hair while using masteron. I would venture to say i have used much more steroids than you,but hey you and your scientific community are the experts.

[bigpen]

I been looking into combo shots a bit. I like the usual "lean stack" if mast, tren & prop. I just don't like them equal. But, of course you can add in more. But, what if you want to drop one?

So individual compounds are still the best way to go IMO. It's just a little more oil & cost seems to be pretty much the same. It seems that it's made for ease if use to newbs.

Neither do I. True - and in which case I'll just go with the individual amps or bottles. I do agree that it probably is designed with ease of use in mind, but where I'm from a bottle of 'one-rip' or 'lean gain' costs almost the same as 100mg tren.

What doses would you prefer for prop/mast/tren?

[< <Samson> >]

What doses would you prefer for prop/mast/tren?

I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

I was 64 when i used masteron,i think i would have know by then if i was predisposed to MPB.I have been using steroids for 30 years ....

Your my hero

My friends always say "ya know your not gonna be able to look like this when your 50", and im like psh yeah, i'll look even better

[MR10X]

Your my hero

My friends always say "ya know your not gonna be able to look like this when your 50", and im like psh yeah, i'll look even better

If you use your head and dont mess up your joints when your young you will keep learning your body and how to train and eat. I wish i knew what i know now when i was 35 training my ass off.
My shoulders are pretty messed up and i cant train like i did when my body was in good shape but i was in pretty dam good shape at 64,lean and not real big but good shape mabey 5-6% body fat. I was with a 25 year old girl and she thought i was in my late 40's. I have very good genes as far as aging goes,but being lean and muscular makes you look younger also.

[MR10X]

I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.

Masteron is pretty potent.it doesnt take high doses to get results,it gets to a point where a lot more doesnt make much if any difference.I used a fairly low dose when i was really lean and it helped,and my sex drive and performace was really extreme......I was also using 600mg test,600mg EQ a week and 50mg tren A ED when i added the masteron....

[loki_is_a_god]

Who the f*ck needs hair? lol

And hair will fall out too.

[< <Samson> >]

Who the f*ck needs hair? lol

Amen brotha

I don't even think I want mine back. Lol

[bigpen]

I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.

What do u consider low for test? A maintenance dose of 200mg/wk, or 100mg EOD?