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    masteron vs. primobolan

    Runnin tren e and test e and would like to run something else to add some hardness. Trying to decide between mast and primo. Thinkin the mast cause it comes with a but of estrogen blocker but heard primo does too. A little real world feedback would be awesome. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddav99
    Runnin tren e and test e and would like to run something else to add some hardness. Trying to decide between mast and primo. Thinkin the mast cause it comes with a but of estrogen blocker but heard primo does too. A little real world feedback would be awesome. Thanks
    How long have you been on?

    I don't see a need to add something on top on tren for hardness personally.
    I get leaner and harder on tren. And tren being the strongest compound here I don't see mast or primo making any noticeable difference unless you are very lean
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    Masteron and Primobolan are very similar with the exception of masteron being highly androgenic , unlike primo. I wouldn't worry about any anti estrogen properties. Use a primary blocker.
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    Would be good to know your stats. But with the Tren you really will not need a hardener. Use what you said ans diet and training. Train, train, train on Tren. ...crazy mike

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    I sure love me some masteron so far..!!

    Tren test mast would make an amazing cycle!
    Low test+ high dose tren and mast..

    You would be one big, hard, full muther fr. .!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    I sure love me some masteron so far..!!

    Tren test mast would make an amazing cycle!
    Low test+ high dose tren and mast..

    You would be one big, hard, full muther fr. .!
    And hair will fall out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    And hair will fall out too.
    Definitely will speed up the process, if it's geneticly ment to happen.

    Oh, and you would be a walking hard on.. nothing wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    Definitely will speed up the process, if it's geneticly ment to happen.

    Oh, and you would be a walking hard on.. nothing wrong with that.
    Thats not entirely true,i have used a lot AAS over 30 years and the only time my hair fell out was when i added masteron on a test,tren ,eq cycle.I am not predisposed to baldness. It did grow back when i quit the masteron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X View Post
    Thats not entirely true,i have used a lot AAS over 30 years and the only time my hair fell out was when i added masteron on a test,tren,eq cycle.I am not predisposed to baldness. It did grow back when i quit the masteron.
    Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.

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    Wrong thread
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    The mast did me good last time when I ran it with tren & little prop. Primo sounds great, but its even more pricey than mast.

    I'm thinking mast, tren & prop are great to run on a cut. You gain LBM under a cal deficit while losing fat. Cool shit, made me aggressive as fvck for a bit too.

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    How much experience did you guys have before taking masteron ? I want to add it in on my 3rd or 4th in a year or 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.
    That theory was disproved several years ago. The gene can be inherited from either side.

    Anyways, if you're using Tren , then you probably aren't too worried about side effects. So just go with masteron , as you'll get more bang for your buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    Ok... Trust me, if your moms dad and brothers are bald; chances are you will be too. You carry the gene from your mom's side, aas could speed the process up for sure.
    My parents had heads full of hair,even at 70. I have a full head of hair,and after using a lot of steroids the only thing that ever made it fall out was masteron .This is actual experience and not bro science.......You can believe what you want but this my experience.....

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    Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.
    Me neither austinite. .

    But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    Me neither austinite. .

    But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.
    What's not a theory or science? I never made a reference to either..
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    Sorry, that comment wasn't for you. I shouldn't have quoted you there.

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    To clarify what i mean.If your are predisposed to baldness it will be adding fuel to the fire.Even If you are not predisposed to baldness it can make your hair fall out,it happened to me......Masteron has some serious side effects,such as what is mentioned and it also effects your prostrate and can cause enlargement.It has some good effects as mentioned here but to me unless your doing a contest it is not something that should be used.....unless you don't give a rats ass about your hair and prostrate......To say if your not predisposed to baldness it wont effect your hair line is not totally correct it may effect some people and in some it may not..
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    Now that makes sense!

    I feel masteron is far from just a contest prep drug though. I think it's the most underrated, misunderstood compound out there. It has far more benefits than just hardness capabilities impo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Man, this hair deal is psychologically damaging to people. Never really made sense to me. Never gave 2 shits about hair loss.
    I just shave it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Othello View Post
    I just shave it
    So do I.. I've been shaving it so long I don't remember what it looks like grown out...

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    If you're wanting to run mast,prop and tren (which are three compounds I really like) then you'd be better buying one of the blends: 'One-rip' or 'Lean Gain' - both are dosed pretty strongly/ml.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpen View Post
    If you're wanting to run mast,prop and tren (which are three compounds I really like) then you'd be better buying one of the blends: 'One-rip' or 'Lean Gain' - both are dosed pretty strongly/ml.
    But then you can't drop one if needed or adjust the doses individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgunn View Post
    Me neither austinite. .

    But it's not a theory or bro science... it's science.
    You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
    It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
    It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.
    Wait a minute... What about gravity??????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Wait a minute... What about gravity??????????

    That one is a scientific law

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X View Post
    To clarify what i mean.If your are predisposed to baldness it will be adding fuel to the fire.Even If you are not predisposed to baldness it can make your hair fall out,it happened to me......Masteron has some serious side effects,such as what is mentioned and it also effects your prostrate and can cause enlargement.It has some good effects as mentioned here but to me unless your doing a contest it is not something that should be used.....unless you don't give a rats ass about your hair and prostrate......To say if your not predisposed to baldness it wont effect your hair line is not totally correct it may effect some people and in some it may not..

    Don't tell people their hair might fall out even if they're not predisposed to MPB, you probably are predisposed and don't know it. What your saying here is going against what we, and the scientific community, knows about AAS and MPB.
    If you say this is your experence then fine I won't argue with you, but realize you are the first person I've read say what your saying.

    Masteron is a GREAT compound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte

    But then you can't drop one if needed or adjust the doses individually.
    True, but then I've topped up with individual bottles before if required. I find its a good cost effective base if you're keen on stacking all three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpen

    True, but then I've topped up with individual bottles before if required. I find its a good cost effective base if you're keen on stacking all three.
    I been looking into combo shots a bit. I like the usual "lean stack" if mast, tren & prop. I just don't like them equal. But, of course you can add in more. But, what if you want to drop one?

    So individual compounds are still the best way to go IMO. It's just a little more oil & cost seems to be pretty much the same. It seems that it's made for ease if use to newbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    You realize that they're called scientific theories (as opposed to scientific laws) for a reason, right?
    It is old scientific thought that has been overturned by more recent discovery.

    Awwwww shit.. I would definitely talk science with you all day long if I had my Kindle pal, but I'd have to type it all on this Stupid phone.

    How did this get started anyway lol.. lets hear more about primo and mast and less about hair loss..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Don't tell people their hair might fall out even if they're not predisposed to MPB, you probably are predisposed and don't know it. What your saying here is going against what we, and the scientific community, knows about AAS and MPB.
    If you say this is your experence then fine I won't argue with you, but realize you are the first person I've read say what your saying.

    Masteron is a GREAT compound
    I was 64 when i used masteron ,i think i would have know by then if i was predisposed to MPB.I have been using steroids for 30 years and the only compound that made my hair fall out was masteron. I have nothing to gain or lose by stating my personal experience,the key is that it is my experience and dont really care if you believe me or not.I have read a lot of post where people were losing hair while using masteron. I would venture to say i have used much more steroids than you,but hey you and your scientific community are the experts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

    I been looking into combo shots a bit. I like the usual "lean stack" if mast, tren & prop. I just don't like them equal. But, of course you can add in more. But, what if you want to drop one?

    So individual compounds are still the best way to go IMO. It's just a little more oil & cost seems to be pretty much the same. It seems that it's made for ease if use to newbs.
    Neither do I. True - and in which case I'll just go with the individual amps or bottles. I do agree that it probably is designed with ease of use in mind, but where I'm from a bottle of 'one-rip' or 'lean gain' costs almost the same as 100mg tren.

    What doses would you prefer for prop/mast/tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpen

    What doses would you prefer for prop/mast/tren?
    I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

    I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X View Post
    I was 64 when i used masteron ,i think i would have know by then if i was predisposed to MPB.I have been using steroids for 30 years ....
    Your my hero

    My friends always say "ya know your not gonna be able to look like this when your 50", and im like psh yeah, i'll look even better

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981 View Post
    Your my hero

    My friends always say "ya know your not gonna be able to look like this when your 50", and im like psh yeah, i'll look even better
    If you use your head and dont mess up your joints when your young you will keep learning your body and how to train and eat. I wish i knew what i know now when i was 35 training my ass off.
    My shoulders are pretty messed up and i cant train like i did when my body was in good shape but i was in pretty dam good shape at 64,lean and not real big but good shape mabey 5-6% body fat. I was with a 25 year old girl and she thought i was in my late 40's. I have very good genes as far as aging goes,but being lean and muscular makes you look younger also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

    I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.
    Masteron is pretty potent.it doesnt take high doses to get results,it gets to a point where a lot more doesnt make much if any difference.I used a fairly low dose when i was really lean and it helped,and my sex drive and performace was really extreme......I was also using 600mg test,600mg EQ a week and 50mg tren A ED when i added the masteron....

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    Who the f*ck needs hair? lol

    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    And hair will fall out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god
    Who the f*ck needs hair? lol
    Amen brotha

    I don't even think I want mine back. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

    I like the test fairly low, tren in the middle and mast being high.

    I can't really say the mast is a must either. When I ran tren last time, I already felt its effects. But when I added the mast it seemed to just harden me up and make me mad horny.
    What do u consider low for test? A maintenance dose of 200mg/wk, or 100mg EOD?

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