after doing more reasearch and having limited funds along with a limited source, i talked to a couple people and im thinking of now doing just Sus 250 at 500 mg's a week for 8-10 weeks not sure want ur guys opinoins b/c i read trhat for a first timer a just test cycle is the way to go, i also have clomid for the end of my cycle....info u guys have given me has been really helpful as i no longer think dbol for 8 weeks alone is a good cycle haha....thanks