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    HandsumHustlaa is offline New Member
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    prop,ace,masteron

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    Whats going on folks planned on running a prop,ace,mast cycle and was told if adding in dbol that would be the icing on the cake with this heavenly cutting cycle. Btw this will be my first time running mast.

    Stats:5'11,22Yrs Old, 4th cycle,182lbs,Lifting 5 years now,10-12%BF

    *TREN HIGHER/TEST LOWER *

    175 prop 25mg ed 1-10
    525 tren 75mg ed 3-10
    450 mast 150mg eod 1-10
    50 dbol 50 ed ed 1-4

    Bromocriptin 2.5mg ed in the a.m
    PCT
    Clomid 70/50/50/50
    HCG - HCG 500iU ED

    Diet: Meal 1- 10oz egg whites, 1 cup of oats(dry measured)
    Meal 2- 5oz of grilled chicken, 1 whole cup of green veggies, 5oz of sweet potato
    Meal 3- 50 grams of isolate, 2 tbls of natural peanutbutter
    meal 4- 7oz of white fish, 1 cup of green veggies
    Meal 5- 6oz of grilled chicken(red meat on day before leg day), with a large side salad with oil and vinger dresing
    Meal 6- 3 whole eggs before bed
    Post Workout- 40 grams of isolate, 50 grams of karbolyn
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    14 weeks is a long time to be pinning ED or even EOD..

    maybe reduce down to say.. 8?

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    Okay I will keep 8 weeks in thought, Im just making sure my gains are maintained .. I do understand prop is short ester so the effects kick in quicker so maybe 8 will be enough.

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    what are you planning on using for an AI and for prolactin control?

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    Bromocriptine for prolactin and I was going to use arimidex but masteron is bit of an AI itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsumHustlaa
    masteron is bit of an AI itself.
    Not really

    You still need a Ai

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    then I will get my hands on some adex, thank you.

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    At 22 5'11" 5 cycles and 182lbs your doing something wrong.

    Just saying

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    did alot of things wrong to be honest, Did unknowledgeable doses, never ran pcts .. never dieted or lifted correctly. I wasted alot of money and time. I have been off for a good year now and trained my ass off and dieted to try and build more of a natural frame.

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    i also have some t3 on hands, would you suggest throwing that in my cycle?

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    You are wrong about Masteron being , A BIT of an AI. That's not correct. It will not level your estrogen. It will not keep you from Gyno with the Test. It just will not create a problem there. You are confusing it with it's original use with cancer.

    Get some Arimidex at .25 EOD. Now please for your sake re-think this Pinning ED, I predict you will not make 14 weeks of that. You will also probably not make the others at EOD for those lengths of time due to all combined.

    Re-think the time table, I suggest, right off. ...crazy mike

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    Got some advice to switch my cycle up and dosages to
    1-10 test prop 50 mg/eod
    1-10 tren ace 100 mg/eod
    1-10 mast prop 150 mg/eod
    5-10 Winstrol 60-80 mg/day

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsumHustlaa View Post
    i also have some t3 on hands, would you suggest throwing that in my cycle?
    No not with all you have. How much do you have and how many weeks tells a story and brings more confusion. IMOP ...crazy mike

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    I have about 60 t3 tabs, and okay yeah I figured I wouldnt need it also being off season as well.. I plan on competing in 2014.

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    Sorry I left for a while. So forget the tbol,. But to further this do you have a few pictures you can post. I want to see you physique and frame etc.. Not giving you any hard time but I like to a persons body if I'm going to help. Now that just me. Maybe others will chime I here. Ya know I shouldn't do this. But... Well let us see will you. Your are just so Fcking young. ...crazy mike

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    Ooooooo
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    Looking joocy brah, specially for your weight.


    The mast & tren will cut you up pretty good.

    Don't do no 12 or 14 weeks. If you are gonna run it, do a 60 day run. As far as dose, it just depends. Some can handle a high dose, some can not. With tren & mast your aggression can go up rapidly along with your lipid profile blowing off the chart. Along with this your BP can jump fairly rapidly.

    Watch yourself - start at a lower dose then ramp up.
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    He man you are on your way. But you are not under 12% BF. You need to train much more and I think your diet needs work. Listen I'm not trying to bust you ball but I have to be honest. You are holding water and fat tissue. More then I think you know. You are very smooth. You have some good mass under there.
    Note your Biceps outweigh your triceps. Your Bi's are big. You need to bring out your lower lats and get you chest sharper at the bottom.

    That's all I will and or can say, critiquing your body work. That is constructive so you can work on those parts. If you lean up good you will have to lose a lot of weight. It will be water and fatty tissue but you will get a little smaller.

    You are not ready for Winstrol . That's at the end portion of your cycle and not this one.
    So Ok good to go with your Arimidex .25mgs EOD and
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    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 70/50/50/50

    You have some hard work to do to cut up and hold your size. This all IMOP Good luck. ...crazy mike

    Man who told you that you are 8-10% BF... 12-13%bf Hell what do you think my BF% is in my AV. I can see some abs on myself if I pose them. I'm sorry to tell you this. But I tell you the truth man. I am being nice and truthful and not Fvcking with you. ...crazy mike
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    For your benefit, please try to get more people on board with some Q's not related to your cycle and you will hear something. ...crazy mike

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    OP where you at?. I'm shutting down here. ... Comments or Q's , I'm not giving you a hard time. ...crazy mike


    Good night. back tomorrow and look for you. ...crazy mike
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    Hey man I appreciate your help, I will keep winny out of my cycle hopefully will use it by next spring/summer. I have a very hard time building my chest. But I will make decline my main focus for now as well as lats which are well needed. My body has alot of work to go through but hey we all start from somewhere!

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    My diet will also consist of
    Meal 1- 10oz egg whites, 1 cup of oats(dry measured)
    Meal 2- 5oz of grilled chicken, 1 whole cup of green veggies, 5oz of sweet potato
    Meal 3- 50 grams if isolate, 2 tbls of natural peanutbutter
    meal 4- 7oz of white fish, 1 cup of green veggies
    Meal 5- 6oz of grilled chicken(red meat on day before leg day), with a large side salad with oil and vinger dresing
    Meal 6- 3 whole eggs before bed
    Post Workout- 40 grams of isolate, 50 grams of karbolyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsumHustlaa
    My diet will also consist of
    Meal 1- 10oz egg whites, 1 cup of oats(dry measured)
    Meal 2- 5oz of grilled chicken, 1 whole cup of green veggies, 5oz of sweet potato
    Meal 3- 50 grams if isolate, 2 tbls of natural peanutbutter
    meal 4- 7oz of white fish, 1 cup of green veggies
    Meal 5- 6oz of grilled chicken(red meat on day before leg day), with a large side salad with oil and vinger dresing
    Meal 6- 3 whole eggs before bed
    Post Workout- 40 grams of isolate, 50 grams of karbolyn
    How many calories is it?
    Grams of protein, fats and carbs?
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

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    I think 50mg eod for prop is a bit weak, Ive ran test alot and I think ATLEAST 100mg eod will be better or 75mg ed.. Ive ran high test doses in past as well up to 1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsumHustlaa View Post
    I think 50mg eod for prop is a bit weak, Ive ran test alot and I think ATLEAST 100mg eod will be better or 75mg ed.. Ive ran high test doses in past as well up to 1000.
    You or someone said 50mg EOD for Test Prop. I agree I do a min of 100mg depending on my cycle structure. I think you need to be 100mg EOD with the Test P. ...good deal...tighten up ...crazy mike



    PS: get on that diet...cm

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    Agreed with mike. If your pinning EOD @50mg your only pushing 200mg a week which is not enough. I'm running a prop/npp now and I'm pinning 125mg EOD giving me 500 a week. Some would say that is an avg dose.

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    Im going to run prop at 600 a week.. 200mg eod instead. With tren at 100mg eod and mast as well.. Maybe 125mg eod

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