I m about to start my first cycle and would like some help!?!

**trying1** · 09-10-2013, 11:41 PM

Hey hows it going? I am 23 years old and have been training for about 3 years, I currently weigh 95kg. My chest is 46 inch and waist is 34.5 inches, I have no idea what my body fat level is.

I am about to start my first cycle off sustanon 250 and winstrol .
I just want to make sure I have everything I need before I start and that I am timing everything right.

my cycle will look something like this

week 1-10 500 mg sustanon 250 pw
week 5 - 11 25mg stanazolol (winny) pd
week 11 - 13 nolvodex 20 mg tablets for 3 weeks 40/20/20
week 11-13 clomid 50 mg tablets for 3 weeks 150/100/50

How does this cycle look?
is that enough pct?
any input would be great! thank you!

**base4291ball** · 09-11-2013, 12:15 AM

Hey man! Welcome to the community. First off I see you're 23. That's somewhat young to start AAS. Everyone here in this community is going to tell you the same thing. Second even if you were old enough and were going to do your first cycle you're taking way to many compounds. you don't know what you're body is used to or will "like". A first cycle is testo-e/c for 12 weeks@500mg, arimidex & hCG . But again you have an age factor. third i'd Head over to the nutrition section and dig in there. You'll be surprised what someone can be missing I'm their diet when they think they're eating "right". Most of the time people are but just not near enough food to see as ramped of natural gains. So head to the nutrition section and check it out!

Hope this helps

**trying1** · 09-11-2013, 03:01 AM

When I started training I weighed 70kg and since then I have learnt a lot about training and diet. my diet at the moment is pretty up to scratch.

so say I was to give that cycle a go would their be anything in their that you would change, take out, add more to etc. ??

**trying1** · 09-11-2013, 03:02 AM

When I started training I weighed 70kg and since then I have learnt a lot about training and diet. my diet at the moment is pretty up to scratch.

so say I was to give that cycle a go would their be anything in their that you would change, take out, add more to etc. ??

**Bio-Active** · 09-11-2013, 04:16 AM

Your pct looks weak. Should be 4 weeks Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20 why no AI on cycle? I suggest hcg during the cycle to maintain testicular function too. First cycle test only

**Capebuffalo** · 09-11-2013, 04:48 AM

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

Explanation of HPTA / Endocrine System & How Steroids Affect You

**Ginger84** · 09-11-2013, 05:34 AM

[QUOTE=Capebuffalo;6670541]My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

Explanation of HPTA / Endocrine System & How Steroids Affect You[/QUOTE

Read...Read...Read and when you think you have a good idea what you want to run, read and research again. I would honestly wait, Unless your a high level bodybuilder competing at a high rank show and even then still to young in my opinion and on facts. It is not worth it to be completely shut down for life. Welcome though and educate yourself over and over, the vets here are amazing and only want what is best and safe for you. Cheers, out

**base4291ball** · 09-11-2013, 10:22 AM

Yes! Couldn't have said it better myself.

**brazuka** · 09-11-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Your pct looks weak. Should be 4 weeks Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20 why no AI on cycle? I suggest hcg during the cycle to maintain testicular function too. First cycle test only

Hey man listen to jim and his advice on pct. I ran this same dosage earlier this year and my recovery went very smooth.

**trying1** · 09-12-2013, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Your pct looks weak. Should be 4 weeks Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20 why no AI on cycle? I suggest hcg during the cycle to maintain testicular function too. First cycle test only

cheers for this advice! how would I run the hcg ? and what is AI??

**trying1** · 09-12-2013, 05:59 AM

did you use hcg during your cycle??
how did you go with your cycle? did you get good gains? and where you able to keep most of it?

**trying1** · 09-12-2013, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by brazuka

Hey man listen to jim and his advice on pct. I ran this same dosage earlier this year and my recovery went very smooth.

did you use hcg during your cycle??
how did you go with your cycle? did you get good gains? and where you able to keep most of it?

**ppwc1985** · 09-12-2013, 06:08 AM

Slow down trying, if you don't know what an AI is you need to do some research first, without it you could be heading into trouble. There is slot info here just read the stickys and use the search. You should wait a few more years, but if you don't you need to at least do it right so you don't screw yourself up for life. Good luck

**Ginger84** · 09-12-2013, 07:06 AM

Again educate yourself first

**crazy mike** · 09-12-2013, 08:03 AM

Wait ?? what are you doing running Winstrol all that time. Are you dieting for a show. No need to run Winstrol with out a very good base and foundation. It is a weaker Anabolic . You would run it at the ending weeks not at week 5. Not before week 7 and at 8 would be better. If you use Winstrol it's for specifics . ...crazy mike.
OH Where is your AI.
AS was said you need to get educated more. ...crazy mike

OH yea, 25 mgs of Winstrol is pissing in the north wind