After 10 Years.......

**madmuscler** · 09-11-2013, 12:18 PM

K so I'm currently cutting, trying to get down to sub 15% bf..... My training and diet are both on point at this time. I been training hard for the last 4 years with a split routine. I am 6' and started my cut at 205..... Currently sitting about 197-198. My question is after 10 years of not running any AAS, and getting my body into the best shape possible..... What can I expect from a test only cycle? Will it be anything like running it for the first time again or will my body respond to having done it before.... I'm taking this nice and slow.... Just planning things out at this point and weighing the pros and cons.... When I was in my early 20s I jumped in and did 4 cycles.... No education when I started big mistake. I'm a lil older and a lot wiser now haha. Just wondering at sub 15 being 36 yrs old how my body would respond to say between 4-600 mg test only?

**bass** · 09-11-2013, 12:29 PM

did you do proper PCT after those cycles? do you know what is your test level now? why do you think running test again won't give you same results?

**Red Bastard** · 09-11-2013, 12:36 PM

A test only cycle will surely give You impressive results, if run properly!

**madmuscler** · 09-11-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by bass

did you do proper PCT after those cycles? do you know what is your test level now? why do you think running test again won't give you same results?

Yeah let me try and clarify....I made a lot of mistakes.... Pct was not proper or complete.... Ran clomid only and also used no ai while on... Like I said I was not educated...I am going to go lab corps to get my bloods done shortly.... What specifically should I get checked? my question is after 10 years would it be the same as if I only took off a year... Ive heard people say after several cycles they no longer respond to test the way they did originally? Would the 10 years make a difference? I tried a few compounds on those 4 cycles but I responded very well to the test.... This time I will run ai- arimadex
Prob .25 eod as well as Nola and clomid pct, with some OTC products..... Maybe I'm just thinking out loud or trying to get some info on something that there may be no factual evidence to? IDK Like I said I'm not in a hurry to do this... Gonna take my time plan everything out and get everything I need before I even set a start date

**crazy mike** · 09-11-2013, 01:24 PM

I will tell you what I know from my experience. I am in my 60's and I took 25 yrs. off. I didn't do things correctly back then, PCT & AI etc...

Test has been absolutely the best for me. I have done Tren twice as well as many other stacks and it is great for a specific use. But back to test.
Time off for me was great and the test works great. It ia all you need for your first cycle in ten years. Because your body uses Test and increase in Test works every time. my last cycle NOW ending was Test only and it has proven to be the best.

The only factor I have found to make a difference is AGE. You might not have the same and as drastic results due to age. I found that once going I had to use larger doses . BUT it will do you the best, the TEST ONLY.
You need nothing more for your come back. ...crazy mike

**bass** · 09-11-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by madmuscler

Yeah let me try and clarify....I made a lot of mistakes.... Pct was not proper or complete.... Ran clomid only and also used no ai while on... Like I said I was not educated...I am going to go lab corps to get my bloods done shortly.... What specifically should I get checked? my question is after 10 years would it be the same as if I only took off a year... Ive heard people say after several cycles they no longer respond to test the way they did originally? Would the 10 years make a difference? I tried a few compounds on those 4 cycles but I responded very well to the test.... This time I will run ai- arimadex
Prob .25 eod as well as Nola and clomid pct, with some OTC products..... Maybe I'm just thinking out loud or trying to get some info on something that there may be no factual evidence to? IDK Like I said I'm not in a hurry to do this... Gonna take my time plan everything out and get everything I need before I even set a start date

as Mike pointed out, Test only will work just fine. this is the BW you need and its a good idea to do it so you know where you stand, and have a base to work with,

-Lipid Profile
-Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
-Estradiol, Sensitive
-Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1)
-Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
-Testosterone , Free (Direct), Serum With Total Testosterone
-Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)
-Thyroid Profile
-LH and FSH

nice to have vitamin D and GHEA.

**kelkel** · 09-11-2013, 01:36 PM

You'll do great with just test. Utilize proper nutrition and training, which is where most people fail anyway. Don't be one of those people!

**clarky.** · 09-11-2013, 01:36 PM

You can get great results with test only providing nutrition and training are good

**Cuz** · 09-11-2013, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by madmuscler

Yeah let me try and clarify....I made a lot of mistakes.... Pct was not proper or complete.... Ran clomid only and also used no ai while on... Like I said I was not educated...I am going to go lab corps to get my bloods done shortly.... What specifically should I get checked? my question is after 10 years would it be the same as if I only took off a year... Ive heard people say after several cycles they no longer respond to test the way they did originally? Would the 10 years make a difference? I tried a few compounds on those 4 cycles but I responded very well to the test.... This time I will run ai- arimadex
Prob .25 eod as well as Nola and clomid pct, with some OTC products..... Maybe I'm just thinking out loud or trying to get some info on something that there may be no factual evidence to? IDK Like I said I'm not in a hurry to do this... Gonna take my time plan everything out and get everything I need before I even set a start date

You will do fine, this is what I did in my early twenties and now that I am old I respond WAY better to test than I did when I was younger.

Originally Posted by kelkel

You'll do great with just test. Utilize proper nutrition and training, which is where most people fail anyway. Don't be one of those people!

^^I agree with him, gear wont help you without your training and nutrition being spot on.

**madmuscler** · 09-11-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I will tell you what I know from my experience. I am in my 60's and I took 25 yrs. off. I didn't do things correctly back then, PCT & AI etc...

Test has been absolutely the best for me. I have done Tren twice as well as many other stacks and it is great for a specific use. But back to test.
Time off for me was great and the test works great. It ia all you need for your first cycle in ten years. Because your body uses Test and increase in Test works every time. my last cycle NOW ending was Test only and it has proven to be the best.

The only factor I have found to make a difference is AGE. You might not have the same and as drastic results due to age. I found that once going I had to use larger doses . BUT it will do you the best, the TEST ONLY.
You need nothing more for your come back. ...crazy mike

This is why I give you props... This helps... A lot! All you guys thanks- Bass, Kel, Clarky, Chad and of course CM...... Thanks for the encouragement with the test only. I have another question since Mike you said that test Always works and increase in test always works.... What dosage should I start at? I know the standard answer is prob 500..... Here's what I got- Biotech ts400- 2 bottles. I know blends are not recommended but I hear people always say test is test.... Any suggestions.... I would prob want to do 12 weeks. Also with the BW..... Is this just a basic
Male hormone panel?