just did my second injection

**monster.** · 12-07-2001, 11:33 PM

Hey guys whats up, i just completed my second injection of test cypionate : (400mg/10wks). All is well,,,,i've been eating alot, like 5000-6000 calories a day, along with consuming at the least my body weight in grams of protein. Lifting is going good, i can feel my endurance increase a bit. I'm not adding any tremendous weights to my routine yet, but the weight that i once needed help getting up, i no longer need. I'm just curious, when will i start to get the pumps, and when does the CYPIONATE start to kick in? I'm tring to be paitent for my source tells me, when the TEST kicks in YOU WILL FEEL IT. He informed me by the third week the TEST will aromatize, and that is when i should start gaining. Also he suggests starting my CLOMID therapy after my third injection, and continuing every other day untill my cycle is complete. I wasn't familiar with this for i've researched, and read the best time to start the CLOMID therapy is after the last injection... If anyone has any answers, please let me know,,,,You have my undivided attention. Well good luck to all yall,,i'm going to find some porn...take care.

later

P.S. I AM SIXFOOT 227LBS,13%BF AS OF TODAY, THIS IS MY FIRST CYCLE OF A.S. EVER, MY GOAL IS TO GET TO 240LBS-245LBS AND ABOUT 9-10%BF. I'LL KEEP YOU GUYS INFORMED.

**MR PHATT ASS** · 12-08-2001, 12:11 AM

I THINK AROUND WEEK 4-5 YOU'LL FEEL THE DIFF AND NOTICE GAINS. AS FAR AS CLOMID YOU'LL FIND MOST GUYS RECOMMEND 2 WEEKS AFTER LAST SHOT I THINK. AS FAR AS THE DOSEGES LOOK UP PREVIOUS POST OR A VET MAY ANSWER....GOOD LUCK..

**partyboynyc** · 12-08-2001, 12:42 AM

i feel it damn near immediately.i do my test shots 45-60 mins before i hit the gym and i feel it.first week it's kicking.these are short esters we're talkign about.first 3-4 days it's definately felt by me.

**big_guy** · 12-08-2001, 01:00 AM

monster...u don't take clomid during cycle..... take it post cycle... 2-3 weeks after your last shot

**monster.** · 12-08-2001, 01:13 AM

big guy, i am aware of that. My source is insisting on i begin my clomid therapy at week three. I don't think he is tring to bullshit me. I thought you administer clomid(after last injection). My source is insistng that i start clomid at week three this way the estrogen receptors aren't affected, and i have a better chance of avoiding gyno. thanks for the response...

later yall

**bigkev** · 12-08-2001, 02:02 AM

clomid is a very poor choice for an anti-e. and besides that, what will you use to kick in your htpa post cycle if you use clomid during? just get some nolvadex and keep it on hand incase you start to feel a little gyno coming on, which i dont think you will on such a mild dosage cycle. your source is giving you less than accurate info, to be blunt, he isnt very knowledgable on the subject of clomiphene citrate.

give the cyp about 3-4 weeks to kick in real good.

there are alot of good , knowledgable bro's here who are more than willing to give a helping hand. stick around and people will be asking you for advice!!!

**Psycoswole** · 12-08-2001, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by bigkev
clomid is a very poor choice for an anti-e. just get some nolvadex and keep it on hand incase you start to feel gyno coming on,

Yup, some people feel that 50mg of clomid is as effective as roughly 20-30mgs of nolvadex , thats why people recommend it. It makes more sense using nolvadex (designed to be an anti-breast cancer drug)