Bicep swollen...Pulled .25 of a cc/ml of not so red stuff out :/

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 09:28 AM

Yeah, its weird. I've already done a bunch of shots from this NPP and TEST ACE, but I get an infection NOW. Fml. That's what i get for trusting filtration methods of UGL's.(even one of the TOP guys..) I used to filter all my gear, tons of shots with different brands, never infection. i got too comfortable. I get what i deserve. Filter your shiit.
Maybe if they get to it fast they wont have to cut it...maybe? Anti-biotics ever knock it out.

**ottomaddox** · 09-15-2013, 09:38 AM

Who are you, Greg Valentino, go to the doctor.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 09:44 AM

Well i figured i'd try to aspirate something out before i go over there and be like i think i have an infection. Only because sometimes with short esters i get alot of swelling and thought maybe i irritated it more yesterday lifting.

**ottomaddox** · 09-15-2013, 09:49 AM

You could just wait and see what happens. Hmmmm. Probably not a good idea.

**Cuz** · 09-15-2013, 10:04 AM

what is test ace?

**ottomaddox** · 09-15-2013, 10:11 AM

Testosterone Acetate, active half life of 3 days, from what I've read.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 10:28 AM

maybe its a sterile abscess? I'd hate to have a doc cut me if its a sterile abscess and will resolve on its own. Maybe i just have to stay away from short esters if they dont agree with me. Sometimes the swelling inhibits my training on them, other people love them. maybe my body just doesnt like that stuff and can't absorb it. id be curious to see if other members with sterile abscesses got them from short esters..anyone?

**clarky.** · 09-15-2013, 11:11 AM

9 times out of 10 I get a swollen delt after I pin it goes away in a few days

**ottomaddox** · 09-15-2013, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981

maybe its a sterile abscess?

Maybe its not. I'm sure there are other ways to see if you have an infection, like a blood test perhaps, rather than being cut into.

**ironbeck** · 09-15-2013, 01:11 PM

Go to the doctor asap and get a script for antibiotics.

**poppz** · 09-15-2013, 01:22 PM

I bought a pressure cooker and used that after filtering bcause I had a similar situation.all is well now.

**redz** · 09-15-2013, 01:25 PM

Why the hell would anyone do that? go get some antibiotics.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Why the hell would anyone do that? go get some antibiotics.

why the hell would anyone do that? Well what do you do everytime you shoot anyway? you stick a needle in and aspirate . So it's ok if i do it to shoot juice but if a do it to see if there's infection somehow im playing doctor...

**redz** · 09-15-2013, 01:50 PM

Well what do you do everytime you shoot anyway? you stick a needle in and aspirate . So it's ok if i do it to shoot juice but if a do it to see if there's infection somehow im playing doctor...

There is a major difference trying to drain possibly infected fluid. You could spread the infection. Go get anti-biotics it's users like you that make us look bad.

**BBJT200** · 09-15-2013, 01:57 PM

your infection is likely due to your own mistake. If you've been drawing from the vial already and just now you get an infection, you either contaminated the bottle last time you drew from it, or you didn't clean the injection site properly.

**Capebuffalo** · 09-15-2013, 03:16 PM

I pulled 12 cc of my delt and there was a significant amount left. It was a brown milky liquid. Everyone told me it was infected. Went to the doctor. What I was told was that the oil got trapped between muscle fibers. Then the body was trying to get rid of it causing fluid to gather there. I was told to put heat on it several times a day and wait 7-10 days and come back if it was still full. That was 5 days after the pin and was gone 4 days after that.

I am not saying that is what is happening to you. If there is heat or pain it is infected go to the doctor. If not wait a bit and see what happens.

**< <Samson> >** · 09-15-2013, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I pulled 12 cc of my delt and there was a significant amount left. It was a brown milky liquid. Everyone told me it was infected. Went to the doctor. What I was told was that the oil got trapped between muscle fibers. Then the body was trying to get rid of it causing fluid to gather there. I was told to put heat on it several times a day and wait 7-10 days and come back if it was still full. That was 5 days after the pin and was gone 4 days after that.

I am not saying that is what is happening to you. If there is heat or pain it is infected go to the doctor. If not wait a bit and see what happens.

Good info, something I never heard yet

But, still - If come into a situation like this, AAs talk should not be brought up. I'd say it's b12 - b12 is im also.

**Capebuffalo** · 09-15-2013, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Good info, something I never heard yet

But, still - If come into a situation like this, AAs talk should not be brought up. I'd say it's b12 - b12 is im also.

It was b12.

. And they still gave me shit.

**< <Samson> >** · 09-15-2013, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

It was b12.

. And they still gave me shit.

I bet

Telling a MD that you pretty much prescribed yourself anything is like telling some super pro sho you work on your own car.

No! ! ! You can't do that - Oh no

Total BS

But, yeah - b12 would be my excuse on anything. Like PH was when I needed to get gyno exam and BW.

**crazy mike** · 09-15-2013, 06:03 PM

OP listen to the advise that is going to have to ensue anyway. GO to the Doctor and get on antibiotics ASAP. Like tomorrow. That's what a doc is going to right then and there before he touches it...hello !! Good luck n be safe ...crazy mike

**Capebuffalo** · 09-15-2013, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I bet

Telling a MD that you pretty much prescribed yourself anything is like telling some super pro sho you work on your own car.

No! ! ! You can't do that - Oh no

Total BS

But, yeah - b12 would be my excuse on anything. Like PH was when I needed to get gyno exam and BW.

Yeah I know. Who prescribed. What the Internet ? How much for what ? I've never heard of it used for increased appetite or energy. Are you deficient? Blah blah. Fix it doc don't act like you've never heard of a b12 injection. Pain I tell ya.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 06:24 PM

the pain seems to be less than last night. Im not a "stupid user" as one of you implied. Alot of things are in consideration. For instance. I generally have significant reaction to short esters, pain inflamation and swelling. If i work out or use the injected muscle it's usually worse. Last night i did a bachellorette party and was lifting up a lot of girls(some not so light) and may have made it worse which is why it felt bad last night and this morning. I have also used more than half this vial without infection, so i feel if it were poorly filtered gear it would have within the first few weeks especially since shots are ED, tho i could be wrong. i have also had blood clots in muscles from 2 shots from taking aspirin while on cycle and it caused a similar symptoms. Even in the midst of discolored fluid, there are sterile abscesses and i dont have a fever, and i have been on ECA for a few weeks. So it could be a combination of steril abcess and internal muscle bleeding. The internal muscle bleeding in itself could have caused this other fluid to build up around the "clot". Regardless, i will evaluate the situation tomorow and make a decision.
I swab the shit outa the vials and 3-4 times on my skin. im anal about that

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-15-2013, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I pulled 12 cc of my delt and there was a significant amount left. It was a brown milky liquid. Everyone told me it was infected. Went to the doctor. What I was told was that the oil got trapped between muscle fibers. Then the body was trying to get rid of it causing fluid to gather there. I was told to put heat on it several times a day and wait 7-10 days and come back if it was still full. That was 5 days after the pin and was gone 4 days after that.

I am not saying that is what is happening to you. If there is heat or pain it is infected go to the doctor. If not wait a bit and see what happens.

yes a i've heard a few situations like this, not alot but a few.

**crazy mike** · 09-15-2013, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981

the pain seems to be less than last night. Im not a "stupid user" as one of you implied. Alot of things are in consideration. For instance. I generally have significant reaction to short esters, pain inflamation and swelling. If i work out or use the injected muscle it's usually worse. Last night i did a bachellorette party and was lifting up a lot of girls(some not so light) and may have made it worse which is why it felt bad last night and this morning. I have also used more than half this vial without infection, so i feel if it were poorly filtered gear it would have within the first few weeks especially since shots are ED, tho i could be wrong. i have also had blood clots in muscles from 2 shots from taking aspirin while on cycle and it caused a similar symptoms. Even in the midst of discolored fluid, there are sterile abscesses and i dont have a fever, and i have been on ECA for a few weeks. So it could be a combination of steril abcess and internal muscle bleeding. The internal muscle bleeding in itself could have caused this other fluid to build up around the "clot". Regardless, i will evaluate the situation tomorow and make a decision.
I swab the shit outa the vials and 3-4 times on my skin. im anal about that

Too much over thinking. At this point whatever you need an MD to evaluate and prescribe Antibiotics. Think all you want we all do at times but tomorrow if not better go to the doc. Tell them you have to be seen...IF it is not better, good luck. ...crazy mike

**Ashop** · 09-15-2013, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981

Yeah, its weird. I've already done a bunch of shots from this NPP and TEST ACE, but I get an infection NOW. Fml. That's what i get for trusting filtration methods of UGL's.(even one of the TOP guys..) I used to filter all my gear, tons of shots with different brands, never infection. i got too comfortable. I get what i deserve. Filter your shiit.
Maybe if they get to it fast they wont have to cut it...maybe? Anti-biotics ever knock it out.

You should see a doctor ASAP

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-16-2013, 03:13 PM

So this morning the swelling and pain decreased by about 80%. Besides a watery look it looks somewhat normal. Still no fever. Gonna see if keeps improving.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-17-2013, 09:23 AM

update: today improvement even from yesterday. Pain almost all gone, and tenderness to the touch is significantly reduced, wheras yesterday it wa still present. There was a firmness even in the relaxed state which is disappering. Oddly it was firm relaxed , and soft, flexed. Now my flex is still a bit mushy but improved. Still alot of blurring and loss of definition on the inner bicep, and some on outer. I actually think i could lift on it but ill wait till tomorrow. I will do back with primary the pullover machine, maybe some light pulldowns. And will either nix direct bicep work or test them with 20-25lb weights.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-18-2013, 12:38 PM

update: better still, less blurring of the muscle. Will lift today or tommorrow on it. very mild pain if i press hard

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-19-2013, 10:55 AM

UPDATE: Just lifted back and biceps. No strength loss. Tenderness all gone. Slight sensation on reverse bi curls other than that, edema is 95% gone and back to sexy

And another "almost abcsess" story is in the books! Well that was fun..

**Hazard** · 09-19-2013, 11:06 AM

Lmao glad everything turned out fine.

I don't ever want anyone to not goto the doc when they have an infection but a lot of the posts made are from guys who have injected and the hormone seized in the muscle or there's too much ba..... An infection will be highly noticeable

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 09-19-2013, 11:15 AM

yeah, and im sure theres been situations where guys have been put on a run of anti biotics for a sterile abscess that would have resolved otherwise, but better safe than sry. i was only gonna wait that one exta day to note improvement and it did, so the key is not to wait more than 5 days post shot, not that a sterile abscess couldnt be symptomatic that long but i think thats the cut off point to where they both look the same and better safe than sorry.

**BlueWaffle21** · 09-19-2013, 12:20 PM

If I shoot prop too fast I get crazy swelling from irritation. I know it is probably coming but freaks me out every time! Just have to wait it out and in a few days it's better.