First cycle in a long time??????

[Enigma5772]

Age 41
Height 5'6
Weight 165 (struggle to maintain,fast metabolism)
Eating 3000 to 3500+ed (clean)
Gym past year 5x week heavy (change up time to time) NO CARDIO
Bf about 11/12%

New cycle:
1-10 250mg x 2 test
1-10 12.5 to 20mg aromasin ed (monitor)

pct:
13-16 nolvo 40/20/20/20

I think i have my quantities right but would like someone else's input. My test says each ml contains 250mg and my pins say 1 ml equals 1cc so math tells me i will be taking 2cc per week total (1cc per injection). My aromasin says 25mg/ml. If im taking lets say 20mg ed that would be just shy of 1cc orally every day. My nolva says 20mg/ml. If im taking 40mg ed for the first week of pct then that would be 2cc every day orally. It just seems like a lot of nolva... (not looking right to me) Im not looking to get too big so i don't think i need a crazy stack. Im also not a big fan of clomid thats why just the nolva..

I would appreciate what ever advice you have, mainly on the measurements. Thanks

[austinite]

Add 2 weeks to cycle, for total of 12 weeks.
hCG 250 IU twice weekly, weeks 1 through 12.
Add clomid to PCT @ 75/50/50/50

[crazy mike]

Add 2 weeks to cycle, for total of 12 weeks.
hCG 250 IU twice weekly, weeks 1 through 12.
Add clomid to PCT @ 75/50/50/50

^^^ right on I second and not much more to say !! Good luck, ...crazy mike

[Enigma5772]

12 weeks (check)
hcg (check)
clomid (check)
Thanks for the info. I was really worried about the quantity of the nolva.. it just seemed like a lot at 2cc orally every day for the first week of pct... And what's the real down side to NOT using hcg...

[Bio-Active]

Add 2 weeks to cycle, for total of 12 weeks.
hCG 250 IU twice weekly, weeks 1 through 12.
Add clomid to PCT @ 75/50/50/50

If he is running test 12 weeks assuming its a long ester since he is pinning 2 times each week don't you think he should run the hcg weeks 1-14 right up to pct?

[austinite]

12 weeks (check)
hcg (check)
clomid (check)
Thanks for the info. I was really worried about the quantity of the nolva.. it just seemed like a lot at 2cc orally every day for the first week of pct... And what's the real down side to NOT using hcg...

No hCG means you'll have testicular atrophy, nothing to stimulate and maintain leydig cells while on cycle, harder recovery, no natural testosterone to stimulate sertoli cells...

[austinite]

If he is running test 12 weeks assuming its a long ester since he is pinning 2 times each week don't you think he should run the hcg weeks 1-14 right up to pct?

No. hCG is suppressive. Once testosterone injections seize, so should hCG. It's recovery time and part of recovery is allowing the ester to leave the body while the hypothalamus and pituitary slowly begin to recover. hCG would prevent recovery at the brain.

[Enigma5772]

What about the volva quantities????

[jimmyinkedup]

No. hCG is suppressive. Once testosterone injections seize, so should hCG. It's recovery time and part of recovery is allowing the ester to leave the body while the hypothalamus and pituitary slowly begin to recover. hCG would prevent recovery at the brain.

I was always of the impression given hcg short active life that you should stop it say 3 days pre pct....thoughts?

[Lunk1]

Have you done pre cycle blood work OP? At 41 you may be a candidate for trt and that may change your plan entirely.