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[Supremeallah1]

Ok, I'm 100% natural... not even taking over the counter sups, and about to start my first ever cycle at 31 yrs old. I want to keep it simple because I'm not trying to be all fancy and over think shit. I'm gonna run a 12 wk cycle of Test-E, EQ, Anavar . Below i have liated my cycle as well as my diet. my goal is to drop some fat/water, while putting on some quality muscle. may sound counter productive to you guys, but I've been able to do this naturally since I was 18. I'm mot trying to be the next Ronnie Coleman. Just wanna put on a little more than what I do naturally. Right now i eat EVERYTHING (no filter), and i don't do cardio. Below I've attached a pic of me taken today. Ive also attached what my cycle, and diet will look like. Also, cardio will be added 4x/wk. I'm open for any knowledgeable suggestions. Thanks family



*CYCLE* (I'm gonna need some help on PCT)

WEEK 1: 250MG TEST-E ,300EQ
WEEK 2: 500MG TEST-E ,600MG EQ, 20mg ANAVAR
WEEK 3: 500MG TEST-E 600MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR
WEEK 4: 500MG TEST-E,600MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR
WEEK 5: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 6: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 7: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 8: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 60MG ANAVAR
WEEK 9: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 60MG ANAVAR
WEEK10: 500MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK11: 250MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK12: 250MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR

*INJECTIONS WILL BE MONDAY AND FRIDAY FROM WEEK 2 AND ON
*ANAVAR WILL BE SPLIT INTO 2 DOSES EVERY DAY



*DIET*

Meal 1. 10 oz of Steak - 1 cup oats 2 slices of Ezekiel + 2 tbl of natural peanut butter sugar free jelly med banana

Meal 2
10oz chicken breast grilled
10oz Red Potato or 2 cups white rice

Meal 3
10 oz of chicken breast grilled
1oz almonds (no carb meal just fats)

Meal 4
10 oz lean Turkey ,bison or 95% lean ground beef
60 carbs from Quinoa Pasta or 4 slices ezekiel bread
1 cup of green veggies

Meal 5
8oz oz Chicken or Fish high fat meal
Large Salad 1 table spoon olive oil and red wine vinegar, tomatoes onions cucumbers, half avocado

Meal 6
60 grams of slow digesting protein or 2 cups of Muscle Egg whites

Meal 7
PWO shake. 60g protein shake no carbs

[Gaspaco]

Hey buddy!

If its your first cycle only thing you need is test, no other compounds should be there, to slowly adding compounds will tell you which works for you best and which gives you biggest sides!

1-12 test 500mg/week
1-until PCT run AI and HCG

PCT

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

[Supremeallah1]

Hey buddy!

If its your first cycle only thing you need is test, no other compounds should be there, to slowly adding compounds will tell you which works for you best and which gives you biggest sides!

1-12 test 500mg/week
1-until PCT run AI and HCG

PCT

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Thanks man. Really appreciate the info.

[ppwc1985]

Go with what gaspaco said, that's your first cycle. You will make some great gains with that. 1st cycle keep it simple.

[andi8814]

Ok, I'm 100% natural... not even taking over the counter sups, and about to start my first ever cycle at 31 yrs old. I want to keep it simple because I'm not trying to be all fancy and over think shit. I'm gonna run a 12 wk cycle of Test-E, EQ, Anavar . Below i have liated my cycle as well as my diet. my goal is to drop some fat/water, while putting on some quality muscle. may sound counter productive to you guys, but I've been able to do this naturally since I was 18. I'm mot trying to be the next Ronnie Coleman. Just wanna put on a little more than what I do naturally. Right now i eat EVERYTHING (no filter), and i don't do cardio. Below I've attached a pic of me taken today. Ive also attached what my cycle, and diet will look like. Also, cardio will be added 4x/wk. I'm open for any knowledgeable suggestions. Thanks family
<img src="http://forums.steroid .com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144311"/>

*CYCLE* (I'm gonna need some help on PCT)

WEEK 1: 250MG TEST-E ,300EQ
WEEK 2: 500MG TEST-E ,600MG EQ, 20mg ANAVAR
WEEK 3: 500MG TEST-E 600MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR
WEEK 4: 500MG TEST-E,600MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR
WEEK 5: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 6: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 7: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK 8: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 60MG ANAVAR
WEEK 9: 500MG TEST-E, 600MG EQ, 60MG ANAVAR
WEEK10: 500MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK11: 250MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 40MG ANAVAR
WEEK12: 250MG TEST-E, 300MG EQ, 20MG ANAVAR

*INJECTIONS WILL BE MONDAY AND FRIDAY FROM WEEK 2 AND ON
*ANAVAR WILL BE SPLIT INTO 2 DOSES EVERY DAY

*DIET*

Meal 1. 10 oz of Steak - 1 cup oats 2 slices of Ezekiel + 2 tbl of natural peanut butter sugar free jelly med banana

Meal 2
10oz chicken breast grilled
10oz Red Potato or 2 cups white rice

Meal 3
10 oz of chicken breast grilled
1oz almonds (no carb meal just fats)

Meal 4
10 oz lean Turkey ,bison or 95% lean ground beef
60 carbs from Quinoa Pasta or 4 slices ezekiel bread
1 cup of green veggies

Meal 5
8oz oz Chicken or Fish high fat meal
Large Salad 1 table spoon olive oil and red wine vinegar, tomatoes onions cucumbers, half avocado

Meal 6
60 grams of slow digesting protein or 2 cups of Muscle Egg whites

Meal 7
PWO shake. 60g protein shake no carbs

One question, why aren't u taking carbs postworkout? IMO thats a waste of the anabolic window post-training, when the cells are more receptive to take glucose and aminoacids to restore the muscle glycogen. If u don't do that the muscle cells will be depleted of glycogen and the water inside them will came out making u look flat after the pump is gone

[Capebuffalo]

Everything you need to know. You look good.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html

[Bert]

You could do test only, but I always do eq during the offseason. I would def drop the anavar .

[Supremeallah1]

One question, why aren't u taking carbs postworkout? IMO thats a waste of the anabolic window post-training, when the cells are more receptive to take glucose and aminoacids to restore the muscle glycogen. If u don't do that the muscle cells will be depleted of glycogen and the water inside them will came out making u look flat after the pump is gone

I don't know why I said no carbs in that PWO shake :/
I agree with what you said. Carbs will be in there. Good eye bru

[Supremeallah1]

You could do test only, but I always do eq during the offseason. I would def drop the anavar.

Why do you suggest dropping the Var?

[nafnlaus]

why would you do cardio four times a week, you arent attempting to become an endurance athlete at this weight?

[Supremeallah1]

why would you do cardio four times a week, you arent attempting to become an endurance athlete at this weight?

My cardio consist of 30 min of walking on the treadmill, or the bike.
Just trying to stay as lean as I can. I may drop it to 3x/wk

[Supremeallah1]

Thank you

[nafnlaus]

Weightlifting is far more effective to staying lean (for your purposes). If you keep the repetitions low and the weight high you will stay lean as long as you control your excess calories. Focus on the big lifts - squats and pulls. Still i dont think it hurts at all to do 30 min walking, i thought you meant something more intensive.

[sawyer86]

Agree with test only for your first cycle. You can always build up and add other compounds further down the line after you have a few cycles under your belt. You already look good so you should gst some good gains. Also var at that low of a dose wont do much .

[Bert]

I think var's for girls.

[Supremeallah1]

I think var's for girls.

Haha....

[bass]

lots of muscles there bro, great job! read the sticky Cape posted, everything you need to know is there. looks like you have awesome genes and you're taking advantage of it, keep up the hard work.

[kloter1]

cleaned up real nicebro

[Supremeallah1]

lots of muscles there bro, great job! read the sticky Cape posted, everything you need to know is there. looks like you have awesome genes and you're taking advantage of it, keep up the hard work.

Thanks for info. I am trying to figure out why Var isn't liked more on here? After speaking to a few people with experience with it, and considering what I've read on it leads me to believe its a good choice. Especially while on Test-E. please let me know if I'm WAY off.

[Lunk1]

Thanks for info. I am trying to figure out why Var isn't liked more on here? After speaking to a few people with experience with it, and considering what I've read on it leads me to believe its a good choice. Especially while on Test-E. please let me know if I'm WAY off.

Var has built a bad reputation due to all the little kids wanting to use it when they are afraid of needles. The biggest reason you are hearing test only is so that you can determine what compound is giving you any negative sides before adding any other compounds. It's the safest way to approach cycling.

You have some great size goin, solid base no doubt. A noce test run for your first cycle and hit up nutrition to realy help fine tune your diet and you will more success than the majority. The genetics and hard work are obvious.

[Supremeallah1]

Var has built a bad reputation due to all the little kids wanting to use it when they are afraid of needles. The biggest reason you are hearing test only is so that you can determine what compound is giving you any negative sides before adding any other compounds. It's the safest way to approach cycling.

You have some great size goin, solid base no doubt. A noce test run for your first cycle and hit up nutrition to realy help fine tune your diet and you will more success than the majority. The genetics and hard work are obvious.

Thanks a lot. Thank you all for the advice. It's I've been training for about 14 years, with a year of here and there, lol. Started this in high school (football) and sometimes get burned out. Take a week off, that leads to a month, which leads to 3 months, and before I knew it a year had passed :/
So really i have a solid 11-12 years of training under my belt. Been back for about 2 years straight now. I just feel like I'm mentally and physically ready to take the next step. I plan on cycling for the next few years at least, so there's no rush to add more compounds as of now. So Test-E ONLY it is.
I'll definitely be checking in more often to pick you guys brain a little, and show any progress I've made. Thanks again everyone.

[Supremeallah1]

I already have the Var and EQ.
I guess ill just keep it on hand for a later cycle

[sagittarius]

According to my calculations you take more than 400 grams of protein. Can you really eat 48 oz of meat? What are your full stats (height, weight, body fat)?

[Supremeallah1]

According to my calculations you take more than 400 grams of protein. Can you really eat 48 oz of meat? What are your full stats (height, weight, body fat)?

6ft, 235Lbs
Not sure about the bf to be honest. The pics I posted were al taken within the last 2 weeks.
Please give me your opinion. That's why im here. Thank you

[sagittarius]

6ft, 235Lbs
Not sure about the bf to be honest. The pics I posted were al taken within the last 2 weeks.
Please give me your opinion. That's why im here. Thank you

I'm not an expert in nutrition but I think that's too much protein. Austinite recommends 1.2-1.5g of protein per LBM (lean body mass). Let's assume your body fat is 10% (probably it is more than that), the LBM will be around 210 lbs. According to this rule you will need 210 * 1.5g = 315g of protein.
Please check Austinite's thread (there is a section about nutrition):

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

You can also try to post your diet in the nutrition section and maybe you will get additional advice.

[Supremeallah1]

Thank you

[Lunk1]

Get bloodwork done pre cycle!!!!!!

[kelkel]

To reiterate:

Complete Blood work first
Test ONLY.
AI & HCG
Solid PCT

Now's the time to keep your training and nutrition on point. Otherwise you're wasting your money.
Read the given links.

You look great. Keep hitting it and update this thread with your progress!

[bass]

I'm not an expert in nutrition but I think that's too much protein. Austinite recommends 1.2-1.5g of protein per LBM (lean body mass). Let's assume your body fat is 10% (probably it is more than that), the LBM will be around 210 lbs. According to this rule you will need 210 * 1.5g = 315g of protein.
Please check Austinite's thread (there is a section about nutrition):

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

You can also try to post your diet in the nutrition section and maybe you will get additional advice.

for someone his size I think 400 g of protein is fine. according to Milos Sarcev you can eat up to 2g protein per pound of body weight, however Lee Haney (8 times mr. Olympia) only consumed 1 g of protein per pound of body weight, so everyone is different. my guess for SupperMeal is 2 g per pound of body weight will be fine.

[Lunk1]

for someone his size I think 400 g of protein is fine. according to Milos Sarcev you can eat up to 2g protein per pound of body weight, however Lee Haney (8 times mr. Olympia) only consumed 1 g of protein per pound of body weight, so everyone is different. my guess for SupperMeal is 2 g per pound of body weight will be fine.

Your body will only use what it needs (that's my understanding). There are some health risks with consuming too much protein but I'm not sure there is enough difference between 1.5g and 2g to create an issue.

[Cuz]

Hell of a back man, good luck with your cycle!

[Supremeallah1]

To reiterate:

Complete Blood work first
Test ONLY.
AI & HCG
Solid PCT

Now's the time to keep your training and nutrition on point. Otherwise you're wasting your money.
Read the given links.

You look great. Keep hitting it and update this thread with your progress!

Blood work scheduled for this up coming Monday. I read that link from top to bottom. Great info in there. My diet will be pretty damn solid. I actually sat down with a friend of mine (IFBB Pro) and tweaked the diet that I posted just a little bit. The best thing about all of this is that I have NO EXPECTATIONS whatsoever!!!
This will be my first run at this but I've been around it for most of my training life, so my goals are realistic. My training may become more intense, if that's what gear allows you to do. But my mindset will be the same, and I'm going to continue to bust my ass. I'll post updates for sure.

[Supremeallah1]

Hell of a back man, good luck with your cycle!

Thank you man