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    recomposition/strength cycle Test Deca Anavar help

    I need some advice about a cycle I am about to run. I'm looking for this to be a strength and recomp cycle. I don't want to gain a bunch of weight as I'm trying to stay within quick dieting weight of the 198lb powerlifting class.
    Here is the cycle.

    1-15 Test E 600mg week
    1-14 Deca 400mg week
    1-5 winstrol 50mg day
    2-15 Proviron 25mg day
    10-16 Anavar 50mg day
    HCGenerate

    PCT
    week 17 Clomid 50mg 2Xday
    week 18-20 Nolva 20mg

    Cycle sypport
    Milk Thistle
    Tikva

    A few questions
    1. at this deca dosages will I need cabergoline? What are some of the early prolactin symtoms? Should I run the dopamine receptor agonist from the start of the cycle or can I add it in if symptoms appear?
    2. at this test dosage will I need Adex? I have letro on hand, can I use it (dosage?) or should I absolutely get some adex or aromisin?
    3. does the cycle look good for my goals?

    I have ran test e at 500mg in the past without AI and had no problems. I have also ran deca years ago at this dosage without prolactin support and did suffer a little deca dick but no gyno issues. Back in the day I use to run anavar alone or anavar and deca cycles with no liver support, no prolactin suport and no PCT.

    I realize I can google these questions but I am looking for some advice from you guys. Thanks for any help and suggestions.
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    No help?

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    Stats Stan? bF?

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    Not sure why that is important but
    45yo
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    11-12%bf

    This is not my first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan-ketchell View Post
    Not sure why that is important but
    45yo
    195lbs
    11-12%bf

    This is not my first cycle.
    The reason you need to provide your stats is so that you get advice tailored to you. Without stats, folks can simply use the search function and find any random information, there would be no need to post a thread.

    List your previous cycles please and how long have you been training?
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    I've been strength training for years since my teens.
    I have run several cycles, several anavar only cycles. I have also ran anavar and deca together when I wasn't being drug tested for football. I have ran a couple test e cycles by themselves and I have tried a 3 week cycle of superdrol. Recently I dieted down to about 189lbs and was probably less than 10% BF. I have recently been lifting hard and let myself gain a few pounds back to keep my strength up so I am currently at around 11-12%bf. I would like to gain as much strength as possible without too much weight gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan-ketchell View Post
    I need some advice about a cycle I am about to run. I'm looking for this to be a strength and recomp cycle. I don't want to gain a bunch of weight as I'm trying to stay within quick dieting weight of the 198lb powerlifting class.
    Here is the cycle.

    1-15 Test E 600mg week
    1-14 Deca 400mg week
    1-5 winstrol 50mg day
    2-15 Proviron 25mg day
    10-16 Anavar 50mg day
    HCGenerate

    PCT
    week 17 Clomid 50mg 2Xday
    week 18-20 Nolva 20mg

    Cycle sypport
    Milk Thistle
    Tikva

    A few questions
    1. at this deca dosages will I need cabergoline? What are some of the early prolactin symtoms? Should I run the dopamine receptor agonist from the start of the cycle or can I add it in if symptoms appear?
    2. at this test dosage will I need Adex? I have letro on hand, can I use it (dosage?) or should I absolutely get some adex or aromisin?
    3. does the cycle look good for my goals?

    I have ran test e at 500mg in the past without AI and had no problems. I have also ran deca years ago at this dosage without prolactin support and did suffer a little deca dick but no gyno issues. Back in the day I use to run anavar alone or anavar and deca cycles with no liver support, no prolactin suport and no PCT.

    I realize I can google these questions but I am looking for some advice from you guys. Thanks for any help and suggestions.
    Strength and not much concern with gains... got it.

    1. I'm assuming Proviron is for libido. Otherwise it's worthless.
    2. HCGenerate is worthless. It's just amino acids and herbs in weak quantities.
    3. Milk Thistle is worthless. Will not protect liver or lower enzymes.
    4. Cycle needs a drug categorized as an aromatase inhibitor, such as Arimidex .
    5. PCT is weak and will not help you recover.

    To answer your questions in the order listed...

    1. Yes, you will need cabergoline or Pramipexole at any dose. Unless you're aware via blood work how you react.
    2. Yes, you will need Arimidex. Letrozole would be a poor choice.
    3. No.

    As for your cycle, this is what I recommend...

    Week 1 to 14 - Test E @ 1,000 mg weekly. (split into 2 weekly doses)
    Week 1 to 14 - Masteron @ 600 mg weekly (split into 2 doses)
    Week 1 to 6 - T-Bol @ 60 mg daily
    Week 1 to 14 - hCG @ 250 IU twice weekly. (Not hcgenerate)
    Week 1 to 16 - Arimidex @ .5mg every other day. or Aromasin at 50mg daily.
    Week 1 to the rest of your life: NAC @ 600mg daily.

    PCT 2 weeks after last injection with the following:

    Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20/20 and Clomiphene @ 100/50/50/50

    Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that given week.
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    Thanks for the help.
    I don't have access to HCG or Masteron . Why would T-Bol be a better choise than winstrol ? Also, I just don't think I want to go on that heavy of a test dosage.

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    I don't recommend that you cycle without hCG . So my advice stops here unfortunately. Please allow time for other members to chime in.
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    I would run a straight test e tren e cycle
    test e 1-14
    tren e 1-10

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