Need help with first cycle

[tazzx]

Hi.
After doing what is about a year of reading, training, and dieting I think I'm ready to hop on.
However I could use some clarification as I am not too sure what exactly I should be taking and when I should be doing it!
I thought I had it figured out, until I read the 'your first cycle' thread in this section which completely threw me off my game.

my game plan was:
weeks 1-12 test e
weeks 14/15/16/17 40/40/20/20 nolvadex or clomid
keep letro on hand in case of gyno

and my fiance is on a var cycle and will probably have 40-50 pills leftover and I was just planning to evenly
distribute her remainders into the end of my test cycling (20g a pill) at about 40 a day perhaps.

this is what truly confused me
Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
Week 1 to 12: hCG 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
Week 1 to 14: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

the hcg and the arimidex? aren't those both pcts and what i've found from everywhere else is that you should be starting those
two weeks after your cycle.

[kronik420]

HCG and Adex are to be used on cycle

PCT is nolva/clomid or nolva/torem

stats?

[tazzx]

HCG and Adex are to be used on cycle

PCT is nolva/clomid or nolva/torem

stats?

6' 200
cutting on this cycle
have been eating at 2k for about two months
prob low 20s bf and i know everything you could say beforehand about too high bf
but with being former 320lbs and skin issues about filling it back up i feel it's needed as ive been getting
advice from reputable individuals on other boards

so what do you recommend for a pct or a recovery drug i guess i should call them
which do you think is more reliable

[Back In Black]

Can we have your age? 20 yes?
Height?
Weight?
Bodyfat %?
Years training?

[tazzx]

Can we have your age? 20 yes?
Height?
Weight?
Bodyfat %?
Years training?

20/6'/200/probably low 20s/1 year training
i know it's quite soon and i may not even be completely done developing (although my frame is massive so i'm guessing i am/very broad shoulders and back)
the physique i strive for is not achievable natty
but after being 320 5'9 in high school i feel using test to help cut will be very beneficial

[AlphaMike]

You're a little confused man, and I don't think you've researched this enough to start cycling. Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, best used during your cycle to prevent gyno from the test. HCG is used to prevent testicular atrophy on cycle and is mildly suppressive so not recommended for PCT. You really should read:
"My First Cycle" by austenite (Can't link it because I'm new)

[kronik420]

20 and getting married, lol good luck

but seriously, do you know the dangers of cycling at your age?

are you planning on having kids with your soon to be wife?

plan on having sex with her? how long do you think she will stick around if you can't get it up...

i would reconsider your decision to start cycling..

[kronik420]

The young and Steroids

[Back In Black]

Definitely reconsider. Too young and too fat sorry. Just because you think you are done growing doesn't mean, by any stretch, that your endocrine system is anywhere near fully developed.

I think you should utilise our nutrition forum for work on your diet.

Tell us of this physique that you strive for?

[tazzx]

You're a little confused man, and I don't think you've researched this enough to start cycling. Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor, best used during your cycle to prevent gyno from the test. HCG is used to prevent testicular atrophy on cycle and is mildly suppressive so not recommended for PCT. You really should read:
"My First Cycle" by austenite (Can't link it because I'm new)

i did read it lol

20 and getting married, lol good luck

but seriously, do you know the dangers of cycling at your age?

are you planning on having kids with your soon to be wife?

plan on having sex with her? how long do you think she will stick around if you can't get it up...

i would reconsider your decision to start cycling..

yes. no kids. i'm not the one with the sex drive issues so i'm not too concerned

Definitely reconsider. Too young and too fat sorry. Just because you think you are done growing doesn't mean, by any stretch, that your endocrine system is anywhere near fully developed.

I think you should utilise our nutrition forum for work on your diet.

Tell us of this physique that you strive for?

i.imgur.com/zR2Aysa .jpg
would probably be it. google supaturk
i know im large and i'm not even sure what an endocrine system is but what i meant to say is that
i'm not concerned if there is any other growth to be had.
why does weight matter if i'm using it to lean out

[Back In Black]

i did read it lol yes. no kids. i'm not the one with the sex drive issues so i'm not too concerned i.imgur.com/zR2Aysa .jpg would probably be it. google supaturk i know im large and i'm not even sure what an endocrine system is but what i meant to say is that i'm not concerned if there is any other growth to be had. why does weight matter if i'm using it to lean out

Did you read kronik's link?

The young and Steroids

There is more to growth than your height. Read the link.

I'd be interested to see your current level, care to post a pic?

[tazzx]

Did you read kronik's link?



There is more to growth than your height. Read the link.

I'd be interested to see your current level, care to post a pic?

i didn't come with any handy and i'd be reluctant to take any as i'm getting ready for work and
was hoping to receive proper pct advice as opposed to the life lectures i normally get

i've read that link in the past however

[Back In Black]

Ok well here we like to advise the best course of action. We care about people's current and future well being even if some of the individuals care less about themselves than we do. We don't just give the advice that people want if it isn't the best advice for them.

Hope you find what you are looking for, good luck.

[tazzx]

Ok well here we like to advise the best course of action. We care about people's current and future well being even if some of the individuals care less about themselves than we do. We don't just give the advice that people want if it isn't the best advice for them.

Hope you find what you are looking for, good luck.

fair enough.
i'll be back in a year at 21 with a proper pictured post and more research done

[Back In Black]

fair enough. i'll be back in a year at 21 with a proper pictured post and more research done

now don't go disappearing. Honestly, our nutrition forum will help you leaps and bounds before you should consider cycling (that's 25 as far as most on here are concerned btw, not 21).

Also have your workout/s analysed in our lifting section

[John Andrew]

Mate at your age and size the last thing you need id to use steroids . 5 years hard work and then if you are really motivated ok. I have friends my age still looking huge and have used since mid 20's to 30's They were giants when they began.

You have a life time to grow and get strong. Regards John