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[mrhat38]

I am 39 and on trt. I feelt good for a week or two. Went in and test. Was 149 after 2 months. Change to patch and felt like a alpha male Aging! Lasted 1to2 weeks and feel like garbage now! I take no anti estrogen m*d. My testicles have shrank, and I can't get through the day with out a couple of hours in bed, mid afternoon.
My test. Shut down from years of pain m*ds. I want my life and my body back!!! I am going to sing up with low testosterone . Com but before I do there blood work. And start I want to do cycle of testosterone and winny. And maybe deca to. Please help me. I don't want a hole in my plan! I need expert advice. Thanks! Mrhat38. Please include after cycle recovery. And dosages. Thanks again!

[austinite]

Welcome.

I can barely understand anything you typed, sorry. Sounds like you have some TRT related concerns and you want to cycle. It also sounds like it's your first cycle. How long have you been on TRT?

Please make an effort to respond legibly.

[ppwc1985]

Slow down man, you do not want to cycle till you are dialed in. If your going to sign up with lowt have patience this don't get fixed over night. You feel like crap, and doing the roller coaster because whoever your dr was doesn't know what they are doing. Let lowt take care of you they will get you feeling better. I know, I'm with them and am feeling better every week but it's a slow process. Once they get you dialed in you may change your mind about cycling. Good luck buddy

[mrhat38]

Thanks! I have been on trt for about a year. Like I said, I know it is the problem, because I have had no energy for about 5 year! Depression lack of desire for life. Start trt depression dropped like magic! I felt grate, but didn't last!

[austinite]

TRT should result in the opposite of the symptoms you mentioned. You do not need to cycle for this purpose, this is silly. Please take the time to report your symptoms and blood work in the therapy section so that you can get proper assistance.

Hormone Replacement Therapy - Low Testosterone Treatment, Anti-Aging

[mrhat38]

Thanks! But what happens if I am level on trt. And I want to do a cycle? What will happen if my test. Go's super high? No one will think strange of this? I want to feel good again! But need my body back also. My wife died, and I want to find a hot chick! LOL and they like a good body! I am not a slob 6'225# but I do need a little help!

[austinite]

Search for Blasting and Cruising. But to be honest... if you do not feel good on TRT, then you are not dialed in. Therefore; you're not close to being ready for high doses.

[mrhat38]

Thanks! That is what I needed to know.

[mrhat38]

OK. This is why I am asking questions. Because I don't know. I can't see what I will be hurting, if I do a high test cycle at this point. I am already shut down. And I would like to improve my body. It has not responded well to any work out. (super low testosterone I say is why) it seems like now makes more sense than spending time getting my trt in line first, then trying to cycle? Would not doing a test cycle relieve my low test symptoms till I cycle off? I am not just cycle to feel better. I need to make muscle and cut fat.
If I need to get low testosterone fixed first OK. But explain so I don't keep feeling the need to do a cycle first. Thanks!

[ppwc1985]

Your a confusing person. If you want to feel good get your trt dialed in than think about a cycle. If your trt gets dialed in you won't have low testosterone anymore and thus no symptoms. It seems like you just want to do a cycle. We already told you, get your trt dialed in first. Your health is more important.

[mrhat38]

Confused yes. Arguing no. I wasn't for sure I was explaining what I meant. And yes I do want to do the cycle, just not wanting to do it wrong! That is why I am here.

[ppwc1985]

We'll you old enough to make your own decisions , so just research beginner cycles. IMO your making a mistake cycling before getting you trt dialed in but your choice. Good luck.

[mrhat38]

Thanks! And no I am not planning on cycling before I get test right after the advice. I just was not sure you knew where I was coming from. I do not ask for advice if I already have my mind made up. Thanks again!!

[ppwc1985]

Well than get your trt dialed in that's where I am right than you can do a cycle and right after you drop right back to your trt dose. First cycle should be test c or e for twelve weeks, you need an AI on cycle and hcg250iu twice a week than when your fine you just drop back to trt dose. But wait till you get yourself dialed in. You won't regret it.

[mrhat38]

That is exactly what I need to know! Thanks again!!!

[John Andrew]

Hi mate, You have some communication problems that are not helping you. That's OK. When do you get back your blood work?

I am 58 and I blast and cruise, this leads to some problems of its own I have had to deal with and get advice for. Good thing is there are people here like Austinite who do know the correct answers. You have to give them the correct information.

Do not use deca initially. Follow the advice of ppwc1985 and see what happens.

I am lucky, steroids here are legal but still most doctors here , even those who work in HRT do not know everything they should.

I have known depression, I am an alcoholic and the good news is train hard and it will go. Use all hormones carefully, ensure you know how they work on you and follow Austinites advice on Pct. We all react differently to these substances.

Plan your recovery and follow your plan. Good luck. John

[mrhat38]

Thanks John! I was an alcoholic to.
It ran in my family! I drank my self drunk every day! 5.am on way to work slamming them down as fast as I could! I would wake up in the floor, violent the ho 9! But I an alcoholic free! Thank the Lord! Am glad to find you guys!