1 12w 600mg Test E or 2 12w 300mg Test E

[znerve]

Okay so this will be my first cycle I'm not sure if I should do it 600mg a week for 12 weeks (one cycle) and also Dbol or first cycle 300mg a week and then second cycle 300mg a week + dbol. What is the difference and what would be more beneficial considering its my first cycle.

Thanks.

24, 183~, 5'11, few years experience

[austinite]

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[znerve]

I want to know the difference between the two.
Thanks

[austinite]

You shouldn't be considering dbol for your first cycle, that's the point of offering you a thread to read.

Difference depends on your diet, not the drugs.

[znerve]

Thank you for the read, but theoretically speaking if diet was good at 3500 cals a days, what would the difference be in results.

[austinite]

There's no way to possibly quantify this for you. It's far too individualistic. Higher testosterone would yield better results. That's all I can tell you.

[znerve]

But higher test for one cycle would be better than two lower?

[austinite]

But higher test for one cycle would be better than two lower?

300 mg is not a cycle. It's just silly randomness.

[znerve]

300 mg is not a cycle. It's just silly randomness.

Thats the opinion I was looking for. Thank you!

[barbery]

the following results are from a study where diff groups of men took test ethanate 300mg vs 600mg for 20 weeks doing no weights and eating a standard diet;


Total testosterone

300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline

igf-1
300 mg group-388 ng/dl a 74 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-304 ng/dl a 77 ng increase from baseline

Body composition was measured after 20 weeks.

Fat Free Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase
Fat Mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease
Thigh Muscle Volume
300 mg group-84 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-126 cubic centimeter increase
Quadriceps Muscle Volume
300 mg group-43 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-68 cubic centimeter increase
Leg Press Strength
300 mg group-72.2kg (158.8lbs) increase
600 mg group-76.5kg (168.3lbs) increase
Leg Power
300 mg group-38.6 watt increase
600 mg group-48.1 watt increase
Hemoglobin
300 mg group-6.1 gram per liter increase
600 mg group-14.2 gram per liter increase
Plasma HDL Cholesterol
300 mg group-5.7 mg/dl decrease
600 mg group-8.4 mg/dl decrease
Acne
300 mg group-7 of the 12 men developed acne
600 mg group-2 of the 13 men developed acne

There were no significant changes in PSA or liver enzymes at any dose up to 600mg. However, long-term effects of androgen administration on the prostate, cardiovascular risk, and behavior are unknown. The study demonstrated that there is a dose dependant relationship with testosterone administration. In other words the more testosterone administered the greater the muscle building effects and potential for side effects.

[austinite]

^ post the source. Studies such as this would be unethical, illegal and never publicized with credit.

[Cuz]

^ post the source. Studies such as this would be unethical, illegal and never publicized with credit.

if im correct Aust that post is on the ************ forum, where one of their members posted it and its marked as sticky, Ive read that before.

http://www.************.com/forum/an...tosterone.html

link wont work but that's where it is.