need help and advice please new

[chate]

so i came across someone who supposedly has anadrol but ive been researching the pics and such and the color and shape are differenrent than the blue and white ones with the number 50 on it, please reply need help.

[ottomaddox]

so i came across someone who supposedly has anadrol but ive been researching the pics and such and the color and shape are differenrent than the blue and white ones with the number 50 on it, please reply need help.

Stats age weight yrs training etc.
What do think that there's only one manufacturer of anadrol ?

[chate]

to be honesnt im im completely new haha , im 18, 223 pounds, stopped working out before summer started and i had a somewhat fat/muscle body build, could never get rid of the gut or man boobs lol, but i want to start up again. im not looking to become a proffesinal bodybuilder but i would like to have a nicer body within a shotr period of time. i would much rather try the pills but they were a somewhat dark yellowish pill. take 2 a day and so fourth?

[itsjayman02]

STOP!! Your too young and have no idea what damage you may do to yourself!!

Hard work and a good diet is what you need!!

[MuscleInk]

Ugh.....here we go again.

Please start by reading this.

The young and Steroids

1. You shouldn't run Oxandrine without testosterone .
2. You should be working out consistently for at least two years to allow connective tissue to strengthen so you don't damage it.
3. You should get your body fat down to at least 15% to reduce the negative effects of steroids .

[itsjayman02]

Ugh.....here we go again. Please start by reading this. The young and Steroids 1. You shouldn't run Oxandrine without testosterone. 2. You should be working out consistently for at least two years to allow connective tissue to strengthen so you don't damage it. 3. You should get your body fat down to at least 15% to reduce the negative effects of steroids.

X2 ..........hope we can save this one!!

[chate]

i dont plan on using this for long time, just enough so i notice a difference in my body then i can go back to my natural way. if i only take the one type of pill how will it effect me, cause i dont really want to take more than one type.

[itsjayman02]

Musclelink has sent you a link regarding the young and steroids !! You won't get any advice on here because of the reasons stated!! READ and learn mate

[chate]

ive tried dieting, and going to the gym everyday, but i could never end up doing well with the diet so my results sucked.

[MuscleInk]

ive tried dieting, and going to the gym everyday, but i could never end up doing well with the diet so my results sucked.

Getting the body you desire requires a lifestyle change and a commitment. If it was easy everyone would have the body of a Gladiator or better. If you want something different, you're going to have to make different choices.

As Einstein said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

It's not about "dieting". Diets FAIL. It's about making changes to your nutrition and exercise PERMANENTLY and being disciplined enough to remain committed.

No pill or injection will help until you are willing to make changes to your lifestyle.

[chate]

the body i desire is something i would be committed enough for, if i knew this would help me than id eat properly and workout every dam day morning, middle of the day and at night, i reguallary play sports like hockey and badminton, so im always doing cardio, and i use to use creatine called 1 more rep, but i found it didnt do much for me other then not making me want to eat after a workout. say if i did these pills it would be on my conscious to stay committed and not stop working for wha tive wanted my whole life, if you can understand where im coming from.

[MuscleInk]

the body i desire is something i would be committed enough for, if i knew this would help me than id eat properly and workout every dam day morning, middle of the day and at night, i reguallary play sports like hockey and badminton, so im always doing cardio, and i use to use creatine called 1 more rep, but i found it didnt do much for me other then not making me want to eat after a workout. say if i did these pills it would be on my conscious to stay committed and not stop working for wha tive wanted my whole life, if you can understand where im coming from.

No pill is going to make you committed. The commitment comes from you, not a pill, bottle, or injection. That's the same as saying, "if you give me good grades in school, I will be motivated to work hard". If you are motivated to work hard, results (good grades in this example) will come.

Start with the thread I recommended. We will advise you but we won't spoon feed you. Show us you're serious about this by taking the time to educate yourself and propose a cycle and then maybe someone will help.

[Megalodon6]

Listen to mi. Look just eat right and train hard and in 3 to 4 years you'll be where you want to be and you will look great then think about aas. Take it from someone who learned the hard way.

I cycled twice once at 18 and again at 21 first time I recovered fine second my body shut down hard I'm suffering for not properly educating myself I wish I would've found this form before I cycled and I wouldn't have the test levels of a 60 year old man. Now I have to attempt a hcg restart soon been trying to find a doc for over a year.if this doesn't work I'll have to be on trt for the rest of my life just to function properly.

I hope this opens your eyes and helps you. Eat like a horse and train hard my man!

[marcus300]

Discipline and dedication are principles that you are going to have to master if you are serious about bodybuilding, being consistent with your diet and training will help you succeed in achieving your goals. Don't have tunnel vision in thinking you will only build muscle if your taking AAS, below are some of the main principles you need to consider before taking any AAS


AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.





AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[Megalodon6]

I was just turned 21 when it happened to me know I turn 23 next month so its taken me a while to find a doc

[AlphaMike]

the body i desire is something i would be committed enough for, if i knew this would help me than id eat properly and workout every dam day morning, middle of the day and at night, i reguallary play sports like hockey and badminton, so im always doing cardio, and i use to use creatine called 1 more rep, but i found it didnt do much for me other then not making me want to eat after a workout. say if i did these pills it would be on my conscious to stay committed and not stop working for wha tive wanted my whole life, if you can understand where im coming from.

Putting the cart before the horse. Excellent advice here in this thread alone, hope you pay attention to it.