What would your expectations be ? ? ?

[< <Samson> >]

If you were running 250mg a week tren, 750mg of test & 450mg's of deca?

I'm on it now & it sure doesn't seem nowhere near as glorious as it sounds. The best way I gotta put it is; the joocyness just comes in & out. I swear I feel more from a caffeine pill.

Most of the day I feel nothing, yet sometimes I get a decent pump.

Ran drol in the beginning for two weeks also. But, fuark that shit, it was nothing like I wish it was. It made me so lethargic that I barely got out of bed by the end of week 2.

So far, I am rolling into week 3. Apparently I have a very good tolerance to sauce or everything I get is semi bunk horse shit. Since my last cycle I was pushing close to 1g of tren before I really started to get hit by the sides.

On a more serious note, I just believe damn near everything I get is watered down shit. Like last time, I was on one UGL's shit, ran out & switched to another. The 2nd one just kicked in like a mule. I felt completely different damn near instantly. Yet the doses were the same for a bit. But, of course the 2nd UGL guy had to vanish so I can't get any more tried and true shit again.

[Red Bastard]

Ten and Deca in the same cycle? Isn't that supposed to be a no no?

[Capebuffalo]

Tren a or e? 3 weeks isn't long for deca and tren e if that's what it is.

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah, tren e, sust mix for test and regi deca.

[jimmyinkedup]

Ahh you need to wait about 2 more weeks and assess how things are going man. Thats when things should be fully kicked in although I must admit you should feel something.

[< <Samson> >]

I must admit you should feel something.

No shit right?

I feel the same as just on a a little bit of test. A very mild random pump, that's it. . . .

Getting so tired of UGL crap, so hit or miss. There is no way to test for content either. How in hell would you know how potent is your deca or tren is? BW for test I understand, but any other substance could just be oil and you would never know. < Horse shit!

[Live for the PUMP]

Sounds like a fun cycle! The truth will come in a couple more weeks.. Hopefully it will kick in for you like a human turning into a werewolf.

[< <Samson> >]

Almost another week down. WTH, nothing. Just a little bloat

No real strength no nothing, except what I seem to be seeing from the increased cal intake.

This much sauce should really be noticeable right?

250 of tren is still a decent amount along with the rest.

[songdog]

Wow a gram of tren.I remember not too long ago when you did your 1st cycle.But it sounds like you got some bad gear bro.I would look for another source.Sorry about your bad luck.

[< <Samson> >]

Wow a gram of tren.

Nah, bro - 250mg of tren e, 450mg of deca & 750mg of test

[John Andrew]

Try a new source. Does not sound right. I am pleased I can choose brands! Regards John

[SEOINAGE]

Sounds kind of interesting. How much ai are you taking, could something else be off? I'm about 4 weeks into test p 200 mg eod plus 100mg cypx2 trt dose. And I don't feel anything. No strength gains nothing at all. I can kind of relate to you, but with all of that I would expect you to really be feeling something. When I ran just cyp high levels I never really felt anything crazy, but strength and size increased really really well, it just took what seemed like a long time to kick in, my expectations were kind of off, even though it was pharm grade test. Now I'm not so sure my testp is legit, I mean I think it is, but can't understand if it is just my restricted diet keeping me week or something else.

[Java Man]

I'd say your stuff is crap at this point. This isn't the first time you've run this mix. You know what effects you got before. The only way to really be sure is blood testing. You know what your test levels were 6 weeks ago.

[OnTheSauce]

I'd say your stuff is crap at this point. This isn't the first time you've run this mix. You know what effects you got before. The only way to really be sure is blood testing. You know what your test levels were 6 weeks ago.

Blood work is key

[Euroholic]

You need a new source mate. Plenty of human grade/vet grade out there. Or you could make your own if you want to no whats in it.

[< <Samson> >]

Well, this UGL/Source is supposed to be bullet proof. . . As far as I hear and know.

BW? Please tell me there is BW for Tren and Deca. . . I know there's test in it - The rest? No way to know

I ran high dose before and seem to have a tolerance to sauce. I ran almost a g a week of just test & thought it was straight bunk. Didn't see shit but water retention & small strength increase. Got BW, it was dead on.

Last cycle I ran almost a g of tren(700mg+) and didn't feel shit until my final 2-3 weeks(maybe 4) of a 8 week cycle.


WTH? Why does it take so much? Seems like a grip at least.

[kronik420]

i get the same problem, currently week 2 of test prop/drol and nothing... no sides, no strength increases... i doubt both the test and drol are bunk.. possibly one or the other but not both... got 2 different tests from 2 different sources, and the drol from a 3rd source..

weights increasing but so are calories...

[< <Samson> >]

It is possible the body adapts to juice over time & some way fast compared to others.

I swore up & down my test was bunk before I got my blood work.

When I was taking the droll a week ago, I noticed it somewhat. The biggest shit I noticed is way nasty heartburn & mad lethargy.


It just seems like I pump so much. I don't want to run very high doses again, because when you seem to really feel it, your comedown is very rough. But, I still wanna feel something. So far, it's straight water weight. + A very slight strength increase(I think at least). But, nothing really more. . . I seem to sleep better than ever. lol

[Java Man]

Well, this UGL/Source is supposed to be bullet proof. . . As far as I hear and know.

BW? Please tell me there is BW for Tren and Deca. . . I know there's test in it - The rest? No way to know

I ran high dose before and seem to have a tolerance to sauce. I ran almost a g a week of just test & thought it was straight bunk. Didn't see shit but water retention & small strength increase. Got BW, it was dead on.

Last cycle I ran almost a g of tren(700mg+) and didn't feel shit until my final 2-3 weeks(maybe 4) of a 8 week cycle.


WTH? Why does it take so much? Seems like a grip at least.

IDK why your doses need to be so high. I have a tolerance compared to the recommended or average dose for every drug I've ever taken so I know what that's like. Roids included.

Tren for me produces night sweats (bad. I have no doubt.when it kicks in..I'm drenched), very bright yellow urine slightly darker than normal, insomnia which I already have so that's not so obvious, body temp is a little higher than normal all the time and my endurance goes way down.

Deca makes all of my joint pain except my left shoulder go away completely and I get oily scalp. So oily that I can literally wipe my head with my hand and it feels greasy.

If I didn't have any of those effects by the 5th or 6th week I'd be skeptical. I don't have a whole lot of experience with either though. 2 cycles. Test much more.

[SEOINAGE]

I honestly think some people just need higher doses. Much like some people are on 80 mg of test a week, and have higher levels than me on 200 mg. So when running cycles would I not need more than double to get same results? That's my opinion on it at least. But if you are consistently using test, you don't have to run high doses that can be dangerous, and still get great results in the long run. But I think mentally you are at a disadvantage when you are uncertain about your gear. Not to mention it can effect how you plan other things around it, no one wants to bump calories up when their gear might be fake.