In need of 1st cycle advice

[janna]

As mentioned prior I am a 44 year old male, I gym ed at home for a year and a half with no serious results, then joined a gym, I,ve used some oral steroids but want to take a step further.

AlphaMike mentioned that i must read My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle which was good advise.

I read the link and did other rechearch as well and come to the conclusion that my first cycle to consist of

Test E 300mg+ Tren Acc 80 + Proviron and Armidex on 12 weeks cycle - could this be a better option than

Test E 300mg + Equipose + Proviron and Armidex or Norvadex in a 12 week cycle
or
Prep 100 + Tren Acc 80 + Mastron 150 + Proviron + Armidex in a 10 week cycle

[Docd187123]

So let me get this straight, you read Austinite's beginner cycle thread, agreed it was good advice, did a complete 180, and want to run tren for your first cycle? Did you even read the thread and if so did you deliberately ignore the recommendations in there?

[redz]

Those are not good cycles for a beginner. test only is a great place to start. Forget proviron too. Where's your pct?

[Capebuffalo]

Please show me in Austinites article where anything but test is used for a first cycle. You sure you're 44 yrs old?

[Docd187123]

Please show me in Austinites article where anything but test is used for a first cycle. You sure you're 44 yrs old?

thats right, Everything BUT test is to be used for a first cycle

lol

[Back In Black]

Can we have your stats?

Age 44
Height
Weight
Bodyfat%
Training history
Cycle and pct history?

[AlphaMike]

Seems like you don't really believe that test only will be sufficient for you to see great gains, you're underestimating it bro. One of my closest friends ran an idiotic cycle of 100mg test E PW, no PCT...even with this miniscule amount he put on 15 lbs over the 2 months or so that he ran it(lost it all predictably due to lack of PCT). Trust the info these guys put out, its been well researched, build your experience up slowly and you'll get what you want.

[janna]

It seems i should use Test e + Armidex for first cycle. Please i understand your remarks but assistance could help
Age 44
Height 1.73 m
Weight 80.3 kg
Body fat not known yet

Training history - home gym for 1,5 years then I joined a gym. I have used orraly winstrol + anavar + proviron for one cycle of 4 weeks, and want to advance

[Anxnymous]

If you're worried about gains, dont worry about it. You will get great results, yeah stackimg steroids and different AAS are stronger but they all are steroids and they all give you a great result! Just a simple 300mgs/week of test will give you at least 15lbs of lbm, more if you have diet in check an you're going hard!

[Darkness]

It would be advisable not to do a cycle you have your body fat much higher than 15%. Also you should let us know what your diet and training experience is, because it sounds like you still have plenty of quick gains if you tidy up in the gym and kitchen. But if you still set on going on cycle, then 2 weekly shots of 200mg of test E for a first cycle will give you the same gains as if mixed with everything else. Combinations are only for later when the body starts to reach its limits.

[janna]

As mentioned by Darkness I will do Tesr E for my first cycle (12 weeks) and Armidex (as anti-estrogen to avoid "bitch tits") as suggested by Austinite's beginner cycle thread, I will do Nolvadex as pct hope this sounds better than all the previous stuff.

My appologies to Capebuffalo I read the link of Austinite's beginner cycle thread again, I must have read about tren/Deca on another link but not reccommended for first cycle, but thanks anyway I appreciate negative and positive advice

[Back In Black]

Bodyfat?

[janna]

Hi Back in Black I made a appointment at a bioceneticus to measure body fat and will keep you informed. According to your pictures I eatamate around 15 - 20 but I am sure its less than 15 thats why I will rather be measured Thanks

[janna]

Hi All
I am on my 3rd week of Test E and started with EQ now
The result of my fat is 10.9

[Capebuffalo]

What happened to test only?

Eq is worthless. I'd drop it now. What's your ai? Hcg?

[qscgugcsq]

As mentioned by Darkness I will do Tesr E for my first cycle (12 weeks) and Armidex (as anti-estrogen to avoid "bitch tits") as suggested by Austinite's beginner cycle thread, I will do Nolvadex as pct hope this sounds better than all the previous stuff.

My appologies to Capebuffalo I read the link of Austinite's beginner cycle thread again, I must have read about tren/Deca on another link but not reccommended for first cycle, but thanks anyway I appreciate negative and positive advice

Bold: You haven't understood the importance of an AI then.
Ai is not to prevent bitch tits.
Bitch tits is the least of a worry when we are talking about High E2.
The damage to your heart are far worst than having tits...

You have to understand that it's not a simple esthetic need, It's a health MUST. Your health will greatly suffer without an AI...

Hi All
I am on my 3rd week of Test E and started with EQ now
The result of my fat is 10.9

EQ is useless, except to oil your bike. It will increase the viscosity of your blood for no reason and will give no benefit whatsoever...

Why are you including anything else over test.
Test only in itself if VERY Efficient.

I gained over 10 pounds of LBM with test only.

You don't need anything more than test for you first run.

[Juced_porkchop]

So let me get this straight, you read Austinite's beginner cycle thread, agreed it was good advice, did a complete 180, and want to run tren for your first cycle? Did you even read the thread and if so did you deliberately ignore the recommendations in there?

Thats exactly what I was thinking!


first cycle:
test AI pct

[Juced_porkchop]

Bold: You haven't understood the importance of an AI then.
Ai is not to prevent bitch tits.
Bitch tits is the least of a worry when we are talking about High E2.
The damage to your heart are far worst than having tits...

You have to understand that it's not a simple esthetic need, It's a health MUST. Your health will greatly suffer without an AI...



EQ is useless, except to oil your bike. It will increase the viscosity of your blood for no reason and will give no benefit whatsoever...

Why are you including anything else over test.
Test only in itself if VERY Efficient.

I gained over 10 pounds of LBM with test only.

You don't need anything more than test for you first run.

HAHAHAH I hate EQ too lol

[janna]

Yes I am a rooky can someone please explain AI and give examples what to use.
Currently I use Armidex 0,5mg every second day with the Test E and Eq (Busy reconsider Eq only) over period of 10 weeks or should I make the cycle 15 weeks.
PCT I consider nolvadex

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq
From I gained over 10 pounds of LBM with test only

What I would like to know the 10 pounds was that over one cycle and over how many weeks

[itsjayman02]

Stop being lazy you have more than enough advice!!

All you need to know was in austinites first cycle thread

You then had advice from numerous vets on here

Your already into your cycle and asking basic questions

Read up on every compound be it test an AI or hcg or pct then you will understand what is going into your body and the effects it will do!!

Got to be blunt do this for yourself !!!!