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    Been planning next cycle and I have all of this gear on hand. Plan on running from December-March kinda get in my personal best shape for spring break time.

    Week 1-2 Test prop 100 mg eod
    Week 1-16 Test E 500-750mg ew? (Trying to figure out which dose more sufficient)

    Week 1-8 Tren Acetate 100mg EOD
    Week 1-16 Bold U 600mg ew
    Week 1-16 Mast 100mg eod

    Week 1-16 HCG .500IU E3D (i noticed 500 works much better than 250 for me)
    Armidex 0.5mg EOD

    PCT

    Nolvadex 40,20,20,20,20,20
    Clomid 100,50,50,50,50,50
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    Forget the EQ it's a waste. How many cycles have you ran?

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    I think this will be my 6th or 7th over a span of 5 years.

    And yes, multiple blood work done, post cycle are always correct and I am very healthy in general. Not doing this ignorantly.

    Thats such a shame, I was looking forward to the Bold.
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    One note. I caught the Arimidex @ .5 EOD and that is more than not, a very aggressive dose and I myself don't stay there long. You can crash your E2 at that dose. I would do a little more less aggressive .25 EOD. If you aren't feeling good or see something you don't like you can bump it up. Just my thoughts and experience. Good luck ...crazy mike

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    Test with tren is really the king of stacks. EQ just doesn't have any noticeable effects other than hunger. I liked mast too when I ran it at 400mg/week I wouldn't mind trying it a bit higher next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Test with tren is really the king of stacks. EQ just doesn't have any noticeable effects other than hunger. I liked mast too when I ran it at 400mg/week I wouldn't mind trying it a bit higher next time.
    I've had experience with Mast and found I had to go higher than 400 wk. up at 550 or 600mg wk. ...cm

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    If you already have EQ on hand you may as well run it (as long as it's safe). Not much else you could do with it.

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    Eq is not pointless. I hate when people say it is a waste because it isnt a COMPLETE waste. It is good addition to a cycle, but not something you will find dramatic gains with such as tren . What is the basis of a cycle and gains? Your nutrition, and eq can help with that. Your cycle looks good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibasmusi
    Eq is not pointless. I hate when people say it is a waste because it isnt a COMPLETE waste. It is good addition to a cycle, but not something you will find dramatic gains with such as tren. What is the basis of a cycle and gains? Your nutrition, and eq can help with that. Your cycle looks good to me.
    Perhaps but risks may outweigh benefits and there are far superior compounds. I'd even run primo before EQ and I don't put primo at the top of any list either.

    EQ can cause a lot more erythropoietin stimulation raising circulating RBCs and correspondingly, hematocrit and hemaglobin. This can lead to secondary polythycemia and hypercoagulation - risks factors for lethal cardiac events. RBCs, RBW, total hematocrit, and hemaglobin levels must be carefully monitored with EQ.

    Many (not all members) here feel the risks outweigh any perceived benefits with EQ.

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    Understood

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    Honestly MI I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, ha, lol However I understand the context and you think/know it is not good and the medical reasons why. Sooo knowing what I know of you I'm listening with believe, Ha! that's all I got ...crazy mike

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    So seeing as if I do decide to run the eq, would you guys do 500mg test e a week or bump to 750?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike
    Honestly MI I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, ha, lol However I understand the context and you think/know it is not good and the medical reasons why. Sooo knowing what I know of you I'm listening with believe, Ha! that's all I got ...crazy mike
    I like to ramble and hear myself talk - occupational hazard. Lol

    Long story short, EQ can cause potentially more health problems that it is worth IMO.

    I have run it twice (in fact it was in my current stack at 600mg/wk) but I dropped it at the start of this week. Both times I get severe headaches and dyspnea (shortness of breath) about 3 weeks into any cycle with EQ. These effects disappear within 1-2 weeks of dropping EQ and the effects correspond to changes in my blood work (RBCs, RBW, hematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.).

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    I may try it for a week, and if any sixes show up at all, drop it.

    MuscleInk, with that cycle I outlined, would you do 750 or 500mg test e?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlete127
    So seeing as if I do decide to run the eq, would you guys do 500mg test e a week or bump to 750?
    If this is your first cycle, 500mg/wk is plenty. Your diet more than anything will determine the final results, not the steroids .

    I would consider clomid at 75/50/50/50 or 50/25/25/25. I know the 100/75/75/75 protocol is popular but there is no specific rule on this and some people do not tolerate 100mg of clomid very well.

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    Not my first cycle at all... Haha.

    If it was, I wouldn't be running mast, tren and eq alongside.

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    Now that I'm thinking about it...

    I may just hold the mast until week 8-16 so I can run it at 600mg ew..

    So my outline will look like this

    Week 1-16 Test E 500mg ew
    Week 1-16 Bold 600mg ew
    Week 1-8 Tren Acetate 100mg EOD
    Week 8-16 Mast 600mg ew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlete127
    Now that I'm thinking about it...

    I may just hold the mast until week 8-16 so I can run it at 600mg ew..

    So my outline will look like this

    Week 1-16 Test E 500mg ew
    Week 1-16 Bold 600mg ew
    Week 1-8 Tren Acetate 100mg EOD
    Week 8-16 Mast 600mg ew
    Again, I would drop the EQ. I don't see the advantages, but it's ultimately your call.

    Are you running a log or short ester in the Mast?

    What about controlling prolactin and E2. What are your plans?

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    See my first post...

    And the mast is short ester

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlete127
    See my first post...

    And the mast is short ester
    Ah, ok. I was too lazy to scroll back the first time. Lol.

    No caber or prami?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post

    Ah, ok. I was too lazy to scroll back the first time. Lol.

    No caber or prami?
    Never touched...

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