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    MrHammer is offline New Member
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    Need an opinion or two

    I would consider my self an experienced lifter, and have been doing research on anabolics and am really considering starting a cycle in April (school is finished and I will have the $ again). I am currently sitting at 5’8, 170lbs, 8% body fat. However just over a year ago I had surgery on my left breast from a lump that I had for a couple of years I am not 100% but I believe it was called Gynecomastia
    , a benign tumor.

    I went in to the hospital for what suppose to be day surgery, but it did not end up that way, I have really thin blood so they had to put a drainage tube in me, how ever when I woke up the surgeon had but the tube in wrong and my left shoulder/chest area was swollen up really bad as the tube was not draining it looked like I had half of wonder women’s breast plate coming out of the left half of me. I the surgeon had to put me back under and take the staples out to fix the tube, and then it took 26 stitches to close me back up, I ended up staying in the hospital for four days.

    Now that it as healed I have a really gross scare and it looks like I am missing a big chunk of muscle from my nipple area to my side, if I flex my pectorals it is really visible that there are areas that don’t even seem to have muscle. At first when I would bench press or do similar movements it would feel as if that area were tearing, and I find it really hard to make gains in my chest especially that side. The surgeon did a real hack job of my chest

    Most of my story is here is probably useless for the question I have but some of the steroids I have been researching say they can cause Gynecomastia
    so I am wondering if anyone has experienced this and if I do, do a cycle am I more likely to have this return.

    I am 20 by the way, and my main goal is to gain some size, and excuse my grammar I know it is terrible.

    Cheers

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    There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

    I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

    I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
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