prop/tren question (no pain)

**mmmbrownie** · 10-21-2013, 08:09 AM

Hey guys, i'm sure this has been addressed before, so i'm sorry if i'm kicking a dead dog here. I did however look and did not see an answer readily available.
I was on gear responsibly for about 6 years, and have not had a cycle in about 4.5 years. i recently decided i wanted to jump on again. i got myself Tren and Prop, my old favorite cycle.
I used to be really in the know on the brands available in my area and their reputations. I live in a new city now, but from an old trustworthy friend of mine, i got
Novartis TrenAce 100mg/ml and Novartis Prop 200mg/ml. 3 bottles of each, 20ml. so i'll have plenty left over.

here is my question. maybe i'm just paranoid, but the prop and tren look identical. the bottles are clear so i can tell. the tren i used to do seemed to have more sediment than test did, and was not identical in color. but i learned that some tren was just not made very clean.

The real concern is that i figured that 200mg/ml prop, if the real dose is even close to the claimed dose, well that's going to hurt like hell. i've always had painful prop shots.
I shot last night, and today i feel nothing. no pain at all.
should i be worried that maybe this stuff is garbage?

thanks so much to anyone who has a quick minute to address my question.

**austinite** · 10-21-2013, 08:12 AM

There are 1000 shades of trenbolone . I wouldn't use that as an indicator. I'm always leery however, of prop doses at 200mg+ per CC.

Either way, blood work is your only answer with the prop. Side effects with Tren Ace should be a good indicator soon.

Welcome to the board.

**mmmbrownie** · 10-21-2013, 08:20 AM

wow thank you very much for the quick reply! you are seriously fit! I'm not new but i certainly want to keep learning. I'm not planning anything crazy, just a ml of each EOD, and i will have adex on hand as well. The only question i have is that I keep hearing about ppl having crazy tren side effects, I've done tren 5 times prob, and i don't really think anything happened to me that i even noticed. the most i've done is 100mg/ml EOD.

**AlphaMike** · 10-21-2013, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by mmmbrownie

wow thank you very much for the quick reply! you are seriously fit! I'm not new but i certainly want to keep learning. I'm not planning anything crazy, just a ml of each EOD, and i will have adex on hand as well. The only question i have is that I keep hearing about ppl having crazy tren side effects, I've done tren 5 times prob, and i don't really think anything happened to me that i even noticed. the most i've done is 100mg/ml EOD.

I'm sure HE is very fit bro

but the avi is Dana Linn Bailey....I love it when this happens

And sometimes prop doesn't hurt. I had no abnormal PIP...wasn't 200mg/ml though

**APM** · 10-21-2013, 10:52 AM

That Prop at that mg/ml may have EO in it (ethyl oleate). Not only does it help with lowering pain associated with higher mg dosed gear but its also used as a cosolvent/carrier to actually make solutions hold (keep it from crashing, in other words fall out of solution) at the higher mg/ml dose range. It may even be listed in a % on the label of your vial, if not, you may wanna ask your source. But don't worry, it won't harm you, however, some people get an associated "allergic reaction" to EO which in some cases could cause some redness at the injection site or the onset of "test flu" a little more rapidly than what is commonly talked about.

**mmmbrownie** · 10-21-2013, 11:05 AM

I really appreciate all the answers from you folks. it does not say anything about EO in the bottle, but it's an underground label so even if it said it, who knows. i had a chance to speak to someone today who seems to know the label, they let me know that this particular stuff comes from a guy who is famous for giving clean stuff, but underdosing. so i dunno. kind of discouraging but part of the game however. i have been off for so long that i'll try 1ml of each EOD and see if i've noticed anything after 3 weeks. I can deal with underdosing, as i don't really think there are a crapload of underground labs that are 100% honest, obv some are just better than others

**Psaletta** · 10-21-2013, 12:42 PM

Pinning prop 175 mg eod without pain. Only time I've ever got pain from test was sust. Hurt like a BTCH!!! Also agreed with the boys. I've ran tren ace a few times and have gotten different colors through out the cycle. Sides will be the indicator. Good luck!!!

**mmmbrownie** · 10-22-2013, 11:05 AM

hey bro, would you be kind enough to tell me what sides you are referring too? i do a lot of research, i know that tren is known to have lots of sides, but i've done tren back in the day many times, and i just can't really remember any sides, although i was stacking so maybe i attributed anything i felt to the stack in general