First cycle

**climaxas** · 10-21-2013, 03:04 PM

Hi, I am new here. I`m 21 years old, 176cm, 66kg. On 2013 January my weight was 87kg, all year long I was on sick cardio and workouts but without any supplements. I lost most of the fat, but lost a lot of muscle as well. I am thinking about taking 30ml of test prop, 30ml of phenylpropionate and 1000mg of winstrol for my first lean mass bulking cycle. What you guys think?

**clarky.** · 10-21-2013, 03:12 PM

I think you should go over to the nutrition section and the guy's there can help you out don't use AAS and certainly not what you have proposed

**austinite** · 10-21-2013, 03:12 PM

Welcome buddy. Give this a read first please...

The young and Steroids

**Fresh2death** · 10-21-2013, 05:49 PM

Little too young bud. Maximize your natural gains while you are young and your natural test is high. No need to rush into aas

**songdog** · 10-21-2013, 07:46 PM

I agree with Austinite read that thread a lot of good info there.

**AlphaMike** · 10-21-2013, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by climaxas

Hi, I am new here. I`m 21 years old, 176cm, 66kg. On 2013 January my weight was 87kg, all year long I was on sick cardio and workouts but without any supplements. I lost most of the fat, but lost a lot of muscle as well. I am thinking about taking 30ml of test prop, 30ml of phenylpropionate and 1000mg of winstrol for my first lean mass bulking cycle. What you guys think?

I think your doses are ridiculous

**climaxas** · 10-22-2013, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by AlphaMike

I think your doses are ridiculous

It`s too low or too high?

**MuscleInk** · 10-22-2013, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by climaxas

Hi, I am new here. I`m 21 years old, 176cm, 66kg. On 2013 January my weight was 87kg, all year long I was on sick cardio and workouts but without any supplements. I lost most of the fat, but lost a lot of muscle as well. I am thinking about taking 30ml of test prop, 30ml of phenylpropionate and 1000mg of winstrol for my first lean mass bulking cycle. What you guys think?

What's your nutrition plan? How many calories per day? Are you eating just maintenance calories or above your TDEE? What about your macro split? You need to figure all this out first. Nutrition and training are the foundation. If these are "off", steroids won't yield the results you hope to achieve.

You also really need to rethink your plan. Are you really willing to risk shutting down your neuroendocrine system and facing numerous physical and emotional possibly for a long term period? Give yourself a chance to grow naturally. You don't realize the risks you are taking unnecessarily at your age.