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    Test Cyp - Austinite's First Cycle - End of Week 7: The Sides Have Shown Up

    Okay so I'm at the end of week 7 and the sides are starting to show up. Here's what I'm experiencing:

    1) Epic sweat party, every night in my bed. We're talking 2-3 towel clean up-- disgusting.

    2) I hardly sleep anymore. I didn't get to bed until 4am this morning, and woke up at 8am... hardly tired.

    3) Acne on arms and back, though I hear vitamin E will fix this.

    Any experience with the above sides? Solutions?

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    What are you taking and at what dose

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    Following Austinite's beginner cycle to a T.

    Test Cyp: 250mg e4d
    HCG : 500 IU e5d
    Aromasin : ed

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    I would change the HCG 250 e2d
    You can always cut the cyp back to 200mg e4d and see if that helps.
    Shower ever day using a good high quality soap or try Dawn dish-washing liquid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Dawn dish-washing liquid.
    HAHA, you serious lovbyts? If so I have to try this to, well, just try it.

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    On the acne front - Some people are just predisposed to acne mate.

    Only be concerned with what you control. Regular face washing, regular showers, use a clean pillow case nightly (and clean bed sheets, that may be a bit tough to pull off every night though lol), tanning to at least 'mask' the acne, clean diet, vitamin b5 (pantothenic acid) and zinc have some good reports also.

    You may find a person who does NONE of the above and gets zero acne from even larger amounts of compounds, just bad luck mate I guess.

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    You sure about your source? Weird sides for cyp only

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSauce View Post
    You sure about your source? Weird sides for cyp only
    Tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Tren.
    Those are all the common sides...why would a dealer intentionally pass off a more expensive compound as test cyp though? unless OP is holdin out on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMike View Post
    Those are all the common sides...why would a dealer intentionally pass off a more expensive compound as test cyp though? unless OP is holdin out on us.
    It is most def. Test Cyp. Hell, if this is tren then I'm down. This guy has been around for a long time, reputable.

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    That's not Austinite's protocol for a beginner cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    that's not austinite's protocol for a beginner cycle
    what>?

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    Here is a perfect beginner cycle layout:


    - Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
    - Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
    - Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)


    After your last testosterone injection, you'll need to wait 14 days to start PCT. This allows just enough time for the enanthate ester to clear your system so that you can start therapy. Remember to continue taking your AI during those 2 weeks. You can also choose to use Aromasin , the recommended dose is 25mg daily. Click here to read jimmyinkedup's thread about Aromasin dosage. As for Letrozole , I would avoid using it because its very difficult to manage.


    Post Cycle Therapy should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid). The combination is important as they work in synergy to help you recover. Running only one of them will hinder your chance of recovery some. Your PCT protocol for this cycle should look like the following:


    Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


    Each number above is representative of the daily dose for that week; for a 4 week total PCT run. So clomid would be taken at 75 mg daily for 1 week, then 3 weeks at 50mg daily. And Nolvadex would be 40 mg daily for 1 week, then 20 mg daily for the last 3 weeks. Make sense?


    If you chose to go with a short ester such as Testosterone Propionate , you'll need to inject at a minimum of every other day. I good starting dose is 100 to 150 every other day, or 50 to 75 daily. Short ester cycle should last 8 weeks. hCG and AI dose remains the same as outlined above. PCT however, starts 3 days after your last injection of testosterone.
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    So this: Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)

    F*ck, okay that explains it.

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    lol. Go to your room! Read it again, kiddo!

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    Huh, my last Test E only cycle I had the exact same sleep issues. Very strange...it caught me off guard since its never happened before.

    I was taking 400Mg/week Test E, adex .25 2xWeek, Hcg 250Iu 2XWeek
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    I couldn't do this if it affected my sleep like that. On tren I sleep better. Like a rock. Never had any AAS make sleeping harder

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSauce
    I couldn't do this if it affected my sleep like that. On tren I sleep better. Like a rock. Never had any AAS make sleeping harder
    Pfffffft I can't goto sleep until 230-300am every night.
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    I could sleep 10hrs every night and take a nap after the gym. Me and sleep have a great relationship. Unfortunately my wife does not let me sleep that much and wakes me up multiple times a night

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSauce
    I could sleep 10hrs every night and take a nap after the gym. Me and sleep have a great relationship. Unfortunately my wife does not let me sleep that much and wakes me up multiple times a night
    Lol well yea women are worse than tren haha

    I can sleep 10 hours - starting at 2:30am lol but life doesn't allow for that so whenever I gotta be up I gotta drag my ass outa bed
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSauce View Post
    I could sleep 10hrs every night and take a nap after the gym. Me and sleep have a great relationship. Unfortunately my wife does not let me sleep that much and wakes me up multiple times a night
    Hmmm. That could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on why she's waking you up

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    That's not Austinite's protocol for a beginner cycle
    Quote Originally Posted by RockingChair View Post
    what>?
    Haha. Busted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man
    Hmmm. That could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on why she's waking you up
    She's 9 months preggo. Not good reasons

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