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    Controlling BP & cholesterol

    I've been thinking lately about those 2 things as I'm getting older.. My BP tends to shoot up em even though I'm using cialis 5mg twice a day along with Arginine.. I know I need to increase my uptake of water a little..

    Cholesterol is another one, is there any over the counter? I mean I can a low dose generic!! I'm Hispanic and everything that can probably will do to genetics.. Thyroid, heart attacks and bypasses ( grandfather had 3 triple by passes) diabetes, high blood pressure..

    See that's why I love to work out, I love it... I know I can clean the diet up a little, but what can I do with the hand that is dealt to me!!

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    Niacin 500mg go to any CVS or pharmacy with natural Supps

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    You want Slo-Niacin. Red Yeast Rice and NAC will all help cholesterol. Plenty of medical research to back them up.

    Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

    Hawthorn Berry Root may help with BP.
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    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    You want Slo-Niacin. Red Yeast Rice and NAC will all help cholesterol. Plenty of medical research to back them up.

    Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

    Hawthorn Berry Root may help with BP.
    ^^^the student has become the teacher!

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    Plant sterols and soluble fiber have also been shown to have a small but significant effect on total cholesterol and LDL levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    ^^^the student has become the teacher!
    Even us old fvcks can learn doc! That's what makes this board so effective. A diverse mix of people, all with different strengths contributing to the collective goal of each individual thread. With a little humor sprinkled in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel

    Even us old fvcks can learn doc! That's what makes this board so effective. A diverse mix of people, all with different strengths contributing to the collective goal of each individual thread. With a little humor sprinkled in.
    I could use larger doses of humor please.

    Good comments Kel and Doc. Plenty of OTC compounds known to regulate lipid metabolism and its certainly worth sharing the wisdom as this is a very important topic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    I could use larger doses of humor please.

    Good comments Kel and Doc. Plenty of OTC compounds known to regulate lipid metabolism and its certainly worth sharing the wisdom as this is a very important topic!
    We were able to get my father off Lipitor and his BP med (forgot which one he was taking) just by watching his saturated fat intake, increasing his fiber, adding plant sterols, and a healthy dose of exercise lol. His doctor was amazed that the regimen worked as well as it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123

    We were able to get my father off Lipitor and his BP med (forgot which one he was taking) just by watching his saturated fat intake, increasing his fiber, adding plant sterols, and a healthy dose of exercise lol. His doctor was amazed that the regimen worked as well as it did.
    Yes, unfortunately many of my colleagues act like drug dealers pushing every pill possible instead trying alternative, healthier therapies for patients. I personally only prescribe dyslipidemia drugs in rare cases of hyperlipidemia in older or sedentary patients who I know will not make dietary or lifestyle changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Yes, unfortunately many of my colleagues act like drug dealers pushing every pill possible instead trying alternative, healthier therapies for patients. I personally only prescribe dyslipidemia drugs in rare cases of hyperlipidemia in older or sedentary patients who I know will not make dietary or lifestyle changes.
    I know exactly what you mean. My aunt is a consultant to NYC metro area hospitals, her son my cousin is a pharmacist, my moms cousin is a neurosurgeon in. Kansas, my other cousin is a LPN, second cousin is an RN, and I know a few more people in the field. Pill pushers are everywhere. Instead of fixing the problem a magic little pill is prescribed to make you feel like the issue went away when it hasn't. There's a lot of corruption in the field many aren't aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123

    I know exactly what you mean. My aunt is a consultant to NYC metro area hospitals, her son my cousin is a pharmacist, my moms cousin is a neurosurgeon in. Kansas, my other cousin is a LPN, second cousin is an RN, and I know a few more people in the field. Pill pushers are everywhere. Instead of fixing the problem a magic little pill is prescribed to make you feel like the issue went away when it hasn't. There's a lot of corruption in the field many aren't aware of.
    "A pill for every ill" is the mantra in medicine these days and docs are paid to treat, not cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    "A pill for every ill" is the mantra in medicine these days and docs are paid to treat, not cure.
    Sounds like someone neglected to swallow the blue pill during their Hippocratic Oath. I'd like to thank you for looking after patients first and big-pharma second

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123

    Sounds like someone neglected to swallow the blue pill during their Hippocratic Oath. I'd like to thank you for looking after patients first and big-pharma second
    That's the way medicine should be IMO. Patients health and well being should be the number one priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    That's the way medicine should be IMO. Patients health and well being should be the number one priority.
    When people see $$$ they forget the reasons they started off on a certain path. I can't say I wouldn't be tempted myself but I could be happy with very little money and my character is worth more to me than what's in my wallet. When I can figure out how to enjoy the luxuries of both, then I'll be one happy DocD hahaha

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    I am late to the party but was going to suggest talking to MI.
    He got mine way down. And on cycle drop armidex and go with stane. Huge difference in cholesterol numbers.

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    Metamucil and oatmeal daily can help improve cholesterol levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    I am late to the party but was going to suggest talking to MI.
    He got mine way down. And on cycle drop armidex and go with stane. Huge difference in cholesterol numbers.
    Thanks Cape. It was mostly you brother. I just offered an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN
    Metamucil and oatmeal daily can help improve cholesterol levels.
    Absolutely. Increasing dietary fiber and adding oats will aid in lipid management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Thanks Cape. It was mostly you brother. I just offered an opinion.
    I think a drop of over 100 is more than an opinion.

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    That's a crazy drop! Were you on medication previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    That's a crazy drop! Were you on medication previously?
    I'm on lavalo. But Ink gave me a list of OTC items and drop armidex for stane.

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    Pfft come to the UK.
    Please bare in mind I'm waiting for keyhole heart surgery (femoral artery as entry point). I go back to my doctors because I had highish blood pressure. He says my bottom number is high. ?. Anyway. Doesn't even give me anything for it. But the cough ive had quite bad I got amoxicillin....
    Wonder what the cost difference on those...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I'm on lavalo. But Ink gave me a list of OTC items and drop armidex for stane.
    Yea adex can certainly affect lipids.

    My father was on Lipitor and through probably some of the same OTC items he was able to come off. Nice to hear man, less medication is much better IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

    I think a drop of over 100 is more than an opinion.
    Just happy I could steer you towards better health brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    That's the way medicine should be IMO. Patients health and well being should be the number one priority.
    And I thought I was your number one priority! Cheater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel

    And I thought I was your number one priority! Cheater.
    I consider you a patient AND friend. That gets you the platinum level service.

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    OMG!!!!!!!! MuscleInk and Kelkel sitting in a tree......
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    OMG!!!!!!!! MuscleInk and Kelkel sitting in a tree......
    Jealous bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Jealous bitch.
    Pretty much. I'm so lonely.
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    And I have a similar story for you like the one I related via PM last week.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite

    Pretty much. I'm so lonely.
    With all the fans you have here, how is THAT possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    And I have a similar story for you like the one I related via PM last week.....
    Oooh. Popcorn.... ON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    With all the fans you have here, how is THAT possible?
    Awe shucks! Thanks pal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Pretty much. I'm so lonely.
    You can come sit in Doc's tree

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    You can come sit in Doc's tree
    About time you showed up.
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    I officially demolished this thread. Sorry, OP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    About time you showed up.
    And whisper into my ear sweet nothings about Cialis, Deca , T3, NAC, methyl B13, and vitamin C . We will make Kel and MI jealous and want to come into our tree!

    Now the threads been demolished lol

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    ^ Damn. That's one happy family right there. I can live forever with those.
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