Kick Start

**Juliano** · 10-30-2013, 06:46 AM

I started first cycle test e, i gonna run dbol for kick start but i don't want a huge gain from it
how much should i take? does 20mg daily enough ?

**austinite** · 10-30-2013, 07:18 AM

Hi Juliano.

You should list your stats so that members can better assist you. 20mg daily is the lowest dose usually.

**Bert** · 10-30-2013, 07:38 AM

You don't want gains from it. Why take it?

**Juliano** · 10-30-2013, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Hi Juliano.

You should list your stats so that members can better assist you. 20mg daily is the lowest dose usually.

Height: 184cm
Bf: 10-11%
Age : 28

fine i will take 20mg daily (2 tablet), should i take them together or what ? and when ?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-30-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Juliano

Height: 184cm
Bf: 10-11%
Age : 28

fine i will take 20mg daily (2 tablet), should i take them together or what ? and when ?

Weight?

**marcus300** · 10-30-2013, 08:31 AM

weight and how long have you been training?

**crazy mike** · 10-30-2013, 08:45 AM

Please give us the rest of your stats. As mentioned 20mgs is the lowest I've even seen. Now you and no one is gonna get bigger then they want in all results are said done.

Since diet is the key to getting bigger then what you eat, how you train and how much cardio. Eating the right foods and the quantity along with your Estrogen level is going to determine how you gain your size as the water weight and bloat. Staying as lean as you can and and not blowing up with water and fat size is up to your intake. ...crazy mike

**Reiid13** · 10-30-2013, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Juliano

Height: 184cm
Bf: 10-11%
Age : 28

fine i will take 20mg daily (2 tablet), should i take them together or what ? and when ?

Why ruin your liver with oral's, especially when your on about taking these small doses that wouldnt even make a turkey put on weight ..

**MuscleInk** · 10-30-2013, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Please give us the rest of your stats. As mentioned 20mgs is the lowest I've even seen. Now you and no one is gonna get bigger then they want in all results are said done.

Since diet is the key to getting bigger then what you eat, how you train and how much cardio. Eating the right foods and the quantity along with your Estrogen level is going to determine how you gain your size as the water weight and bloat. Staying as lean as you can and and not blowing up with water and fat size is up to your intake. ...crazy mike

Agree with this and other comments. 20mg isn't really worth it IMO. Some guys believe in the "kick in" protocol. I've never prescribed to it myself and don't really see the benefit or mind set that one needs to ramp things up as fast as possible.

**Dylanwright** · 10-30-2013, 12:38 PM

As Marcus300 said how long been training?? Also taking 20mg Ed is not really "kick starting" a cycle just mearly waking up your receptors!! Personally I started week 1-4 with 40-50mg ed to build a solid base to my cycle till the injectables fully kick in!, but without your lifting background it's really hard to give u a true answer