just curious but thers been alot of threads about "shut down" etc etc and it seems as if most compounds shut you down equally as bad, I recover from deca just fine using no HCG but an aggressive PCT of clomid/nolva, therfore when using tren i should be okay using just nolva/clomid right for a PCT and HCG wouldnt really be necessary as i dont need it with other compounds ?