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    The BIG #2 cycle!

    Hey guys I'm putting together my 2nd cycle. I plan on starting in December or January. Looking for feed back if it looks ok. My goals are to put on mass/bulk.

    My stats:

    190lbs
    32 years young
    BF 15%
    2 years training non-stop (I've been lifting since HS)

    My 1st cycle was Test E 500mg/week for 10 weeks with HCG and PCT same as listed below.

    Week 1-2 and 13-14 Test Prop 50mg EOD
    Week 1-12 Test C 400 mg/week
    Week 1-12 Deca 200 mg/week
    Week 1-14 HCG 250iu twice a week.
    Adex .25mg EOD

    PCT Start 3 days after last Test Prop shot.

    Nolva:40/20/20/20mg Daily for 4 weeks
    Clomid: 75/50/50/50mg Daily for 4 weeks

    I am going to have Caber or Prami on hand for progesterone or should I just use it to be on the safe side.
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    Hey pro...

    You can stop hCG when your cycle ends. Don't use it post cycle at all. No need.

    Also, you say hCG 4 days leading up to PCT. If you're finishing with prop, PCT would be 3 days after last pin.

    If your deca is for joint relief, your dose is fine. Otherwise, increase to at least 300mg.

    You mean prolactin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Hey pro...

    You can stop hCG when your cycle ends. Don't use it post cycle at all. No need.

    Also, you say hCG 4 days leading up to PCT. If you're finishing with prop, PCT would be 3 days after last pin.

    If your deca is for joint relief, your dose is fine. Otherwise, increase to at least 300mg.

    You mean prolactin?

    Enjoy buddy, and have a powerful day.

    Thanks Aust.

    My bad on the HCG. I was cutting and pasting from my first cycle plan. Yeah end HCG when prop ends Forgot to delete week.

    On the Deca I was going to run 400mg equal to test, but want to play it safe. My understanding with stacking is 1+1=3.

    Yes Prolactin: Still researching this. Should I run Prami during cycle or just have on hand?

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    Either way with prami, you can knock down prolactin quickly if it occures. If you're worried, it doesnt hurt to use it on cycle.

    Low Prolactin is not an issue. High prolactin is packed with side effects.
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    Jimmyinkedup has a good thread on pramipexole. I've used both (caber & prami). Prami kicks my a$$ and I've tried several dosing protocols. I prefer caber but some people tolerate prami just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Either way with prami, you can knock down prolactin quickly if it occures. If you're worried, it doesnt hurt to use it on cycle.

    Low Prolactin is not an issue. High prolactin is packed with side effects.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Jimmyinkedup has a good thread on pramipexole. I've used both (caber & prami). Prami kicks my a$$ and I've tried several dosing protocols. I prefer caber but some people tolerate prami just fine.

    Thanks guys. I am going with Prami. I just read some great threads that I have read before but really didn't understand the prolactin and progresterone control. So if I keep E2 and prolactin under control. The sides from the Deca and the test should be minimal.

    From my first cycle I noticed I held water. I dropped 6 lbs in 3 weeks, 2 weeks after last test shot. I also got minor acne on my arms and shoulders mid cycle and it's cleared up now (none on back or face).

    The water weight doesn't bother me but the acne sucks. So I'm hoping the adex and prami will keep me clear. I am starting starting Aust acne protocol now in prep of this cycle.

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