Noobie Questions

[programdude]

I am 22 considering my first cycle for around when I am 23(after X-Ray's). The cycle I am considering is 12 weeks of either Test E or 250 which I understand to be standard.
So just to be sure(this was taken more or less from a stickied thread here):
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone E/250 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

This means for my cycle I would need:
1,575 mg clomid
700 mg of Nolvadex
6k iU's HCG
6K Mg sustanon 250 or Test E
Anti balding shampoo
Syringes

Want to be sure my bases are covered.
I have pretty mild temple and back acne. How much worse should I expect that to get? Of course I know it varies person to person.

I'm in good shape with a good bit of lean muscle, but my pecs and stomach holds extra fat. Is this a sign I should be worried about estrogen issues? If so what adjustments would I make.

I know some of these are illegal, but are any of them legal/openly available to buy? If so I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

[austinite]

Welcome to the board, programdude!

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That's a great protocol you got there I think you have an extra 0 next to your sust/hcg

[programdude]

Haha good god. You'd think I could do basic math.

[programdude]

Liquid Tamox is Nolvadex right?

[MuscleInk]

Yes, that is correct.

[Fcastle357]

op says. "I'm in good shape with a good bit of lean muscle, but my pecs and stomach holds extra fat. Is this a sign I should be worried about estrogen issues? If so what adjustments would I make."

Depending on how much extra weight you have you may want to hold off on the cycle. 15% body fat or lower is the ideal amount to begin a cycle. If you can find your true body fat % it would help in further advice. Or a pic. Your right extra fat can mean extra sides.

[programdude]

I wouldnt consider cycling till I was heavier with muscle and leaner than currently. I think I am under 15 but I would be probably around 12 when I decide to cycle.

[Fcastle357]

I wouldnt consider cycling till I was heavier with muscle and leaner than currently. I think I am under 15 but I would be probably around 12 when I decide to cycle.

Good call. The best of luck to you when you decide its time. Lots of good members and help here.

[programdude]

Thats what I've noticed. The past month of research here has made me feel confident that when the time comes I'll be properly equipped.

[songdog]

Well your on the right path research! Now hit the diet section and post your diet with macros.These guys will help you get big.

[programdude]

Edited away

[fit2bOld]

Other than the shampoo and syringes of course, is any of the stuff I'm looking for available legally(not prescription of course).

Now your starting to fish. This is not a source board. ARR on the top banner has most of what you need. The rest is up to you.

[Capebuffalo]

Other stats besides 22?
How long have you been training?

[programdude]

Now your starting to fish. This is not a source board. ARR on the top banner has most of what you need. The rest is up to you.

Pardon? Respectfully I'm not fishing at all. I am new to this and there are sites that claim to have all of this available(legally in some cases), and I wouldn't make an attempt to buy anything illegal off one of those sites as I understand thats asking to be scammed. I appreciate the nod in the right direction.

As far as stats I have been training around 8 years, 6 fairly seriously. I am more about shape than size, and do have some to fill out in my legs before using gear. I'm around 5 9 160 or so, pretty lean now.

[programdude]

Also what kind of needles do I want? 1CC .5CC etc

[Monbrow89]

2ml syringes will be fine, you only using 1ml at a time. 1cc = 1ml

For needles you want a 21g 1inch for drawing the liquid and a 23g 1inch for injecting. I recommend reading the sticky by austinite about reducing pip. It mentions needle sizes in there.

[programdude]

Thanks will check it out. Btw are we allowed to discuss pricing here? Or is there a certain spot for that.

[Megalodon6]

Defiantly not allowed to discuss prices bro

[programdude]

Thanks-
So just to make sure I've got this right if I picked up:
Arimidex 30 mg
Genshi nolvadex 30 tabs x20 mg
Genshi Sustanon 1250 x5
Genshi clomid 30 tabs x 50mg

That would cover me, aside from syringes, HCG, and balding shampoo etc.

[ickythump]

Thanks will check it out. Btw are we allowed to discuss pricing here? Or is there a certain spot for that.

welcome aboard... head to the stickies for rules and beginning insight, definitely kudos on waiting and being well prepared... respect!

[programdude]

Thanks. Im not looking to rush into it(despite my job being based around muscle aesthetics)- But am def looking to be able to dive into it as soon as I am ready.

[growfast]

I wouldnt consider cycling till I was heavier with muscle and leaner than currently. I think I am under 15 but I would be probably around 12 when I decide to cycle.

Wise thinking!

[programdude]

Anyone confirm this?

Thanks-
So just to make sure I've got this right if I picked up:
Arimidex 30 mg
Genshi nolvadex 30 tabs x20 mg
Genshi Sustanon 1250 x5
Genshi clomid 30 tabs x 50mg

That would cover me, aside from syringes, HCG, and balding shampoo etc.

[programdude]

bump

[ickythump]

is sust 1250 a thing or did you mean 250? add hCG.... still planning on waiting tho??

[programdude]

HCG is the one think I didnt list. Sustanon 120 is just a 1250 just means vial of 1250 mg of sustanon 250. Its what Genshi seems to make.

[ickythump]

yea they make a 5ml-250/mg.ml-1250... but I think it's sust250, either way... that's what I'm running

[programdude]

Oh sick. I think I am going with them since I've heard they have pretty much no fake gear on the market.

[ickythump]

apparently the vials are tougher to fake... and you can check the lot number?? idk, not in yet

[programdude]

Yea thats encouraging. Not looking to have my first cycle be marred by bunk stuff.

[programdude]

Thanks-
So just to make sure I've got this right if I picked up:
Arimidex 30 mg
Genshi nolvadex 30 tabs x20 mg
Genshi Sustanon 1250 x5
Genshi clomid 30 tabs x 50mg

That would cover me, aside from syringes, HCG, and balding shampoo etc.

Still hoping for fresh eyes to confirm this is what I need other than the HCG and any balding topicals I use.

[Mp859]

How do you plan on running the clomid and nolva?

[programdude]

- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

[Mp859]

- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

You will need I order more nolva/clomid to run it as you proposed.

That's why I asked.

[programdude]

Thanks bro, good looks.

[programdude]

Bumping this up for any possible further critique.

[programdude]

An updated list minus the HCG, making sure I'm not overlooking anything obvious.
Arimidex 30 mg
Genshi nolvadex 30 tabs x20 mg x2
Genshi Sustanon 1250 x5
Genshi clomid 30 tabs x 50mg x2

That would cover me, aside from syringes, HCG, and balding shampoo etc.

[programdude]

Shouldnt it be kosher to start HCG a few weeks in? Also given the scarcity of it, is there any way to get away without HCG? Have read some pretty reputable cycles without it.

[ickythump]

it is highly recommended that you use hcg... it's usually hesitant but you can get a better late than never response, and I have read many logs that sounded successful with no mention of hcg and friends who didn't use it, but it's like a seat belt you don't need it if you don't crash, but, if you DO crash, well you get it..

[programdude]

Thats sound reasoning. I'm just torn, since it seems to be not only the most obscure, but the least required.

Thats not to scoff at the opinions of the infinitely more experienced people on here that do vouch for it.