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Thread: 1st cycle Sus250 1ml/250mg EOD for 8 week

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    1st cycle Sus250 1ml/250mg EOD for 8 week

    1st cycle Sus250 1ml/250mg EOD for 8 weeks

    Hi been training for a few years never used steroids as im from Australia and its very hard to get here or maybe I just dont know how to get it lol. Anyway I been reading and getting a lot of good info on here for my training. Not gonna say how but I manage to get hold of 2 bottles of sus250, Nolvadex and clomid so I decided to do a cycle.

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    Sus 250 / 250mg EOD 8weeks

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    Nolvadex 20mg per day 4 weeks
    Clomid 50mg per day 4 weeks

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    12% body fat

    Thats pretty much it any changes please let me know. I know 8 weeks might be short for sus250 but thats all I got for now will I see good results just from that?

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    You should edit the post and remove the comments about not being able to find gear or having a hard time doing so. You're just setting yourself up for some scammer to contact you, take your money and give you nothing in return.

    Sust isn't the best choice for your first cycle. The compound is a blend of esters and will likely cause more PIP than you're ready for. As a blend, dose adjustments are difficult if needed to manage side effects because you are affecting several esters not just one. 8 wks is on the short side. A minimum of 10 but preferably 12 weeks would be ideal.

    Are you running an AI to control your estrogen levels? Blends can cause a bit more of a challenge on estrogen control than a single ester.

    How about HCG ? That should be used on cycle.

    Keep in mind, your gains will be more affected by your food intake. Have you calculated your TDEE and figured out how much you'll need above this daily to see any size gains?

    Out of curiosity, how tall are you?

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    250mg, EOD, is 875mg per week, and gives you less than 6 weeks, assuming that you have 2 10ml vials. A pretty big dose, especially for a first time. Might want to rethink that, unless I misunderstood your suggested protocol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bastard
    250mg, EOD, is 875mg per week, and gives you less than 6 weeks, assuming that you have 2 10ml vials. A pretty big dose, especially for a first time. Might want to rethink that, unless I misunderstood your suggested protocol...
    Nice catch Red.
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    Oh ok I just check say if I start tomorrow which I won't 2 bottle will last till 31st dec which will be my last pin that's total 58 days from 4th nov to 31st dec all in all might be bit short or you think will be ok?
    Also I assume EOD meaning every 3rd day so I will be having around 750 mg of sus250 per week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobylifter
    Oh ok I just check say if I start tomorrow which I won't 2 bottle will last till 31st dec which will be my last pin that's total 58 days from 4th nov to 31st dec all in all might be bit short or you think will be ok?
    Also I assume EOD meaning every 3rd day so I will be having around 750 mg of sus250 per week
    EOD would be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, and so on.

    Your cycle is too short. 10 weeks minimum. 12 preferred.

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    Why not just do 500mg/ week??
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    Yea could do that I just kept reading guys doing it EOD I thought it meant every 3rd day lol something about the blood levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobylifter
    Yea could do that I just kept reading guys doing it EOD I thought it meant every 3rd day lol something about the blood levels
    It can be run E3D, but that's not EOD. As Redz suggested, you could do 1ml 2x/wk for 500mg/wk total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    EOD would be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, and so on.
    And then?
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    [QUOTE=Noobylifter;6718960]Oh ok I just check say if I start tomorrow which I won't 2 bottle will last till 31st dec which will be my last pin that's total 58 days from 4th nov to 31st dec all in all might be bit short or you think will be ok?
    Also I assume EOD meaning every 3rd day so I will be having around 750 mg of sus250 per week

    EOD means every other day. 1ml of sust 250 every other day will be 875mg a week. That is way too much for a first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite

    And then?
    "SO ON". Comes after Saturday. Lol
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    Ah ok thanks for the info might just do 500mg per week for 10 weeks. Any good results from this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobylifter
    Ah ok thanks for the info might just do 500mg per week for 10 weeks. Any good results from this?
    Results are driven by diet. You need to eat about 500-750 calories above your TDEE daily if you want to grow brother. All the gear in the world won't help if you aren't consuming the calories needed for growth.
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    Make sure you get your AI and HCG !!!!!

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    Ah ok cool I eat a lot all the right foods just never measured how many calories hopefully works out thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobylifter
    Ah ok cool I eat a lot all the right foods just never measured how many calories hopefully works out thanks again
    That should be the first thing you do before you cycle. Your nutrition is the foundation. Without that, you may see no results and you won't keep any gains if you don't eat to support growth, buddy.

    Nutrition is the core of success. You can't succeed without it.

    I suggest you look for some solid nutrition advice from our experts in the nutrition section.
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 11-02-2013 at 09:53 PM.
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    Gear in aus is easy to get op. its just pricy and i mean very pricy but lets not go there.

    Just stick with 500mg a week and get your pct and ai from arr the site sponsor

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    Hey guys just a question I have been offered sarms s22 I was told the dosage is 0.25ml daily I was thinging of running this aswell as they told me this would give a better effect on my cycle. If Iwas to run this when it comes time to pin sus250 am I able to have sarms s22 and sus250 in the same shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    and then?
    no more and then!

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