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    Exclamation First cycle ever - help needed

    I am buying my first cycle ever from a close friend. I get the feeling he knows a lot about roids but most of it is just from experience. I've been doing a lot of reading online - specifically on r/steroids, and have found out that my friend really doesn't know a lot. This being true especially when it comes down to the dangers and ways of minimizing side effects; which is my major focus in this cycle.

    My stats:
    22 years old
    6'7'
    270lb w/about 25% body fat

    What I'm buying:
    2000 mg tren
    300 mg test 10 cc - not quite sure exactly how much this is.

    So what I'm guessing will happen when I buy this is my friend will give me a mediocre cycle plan. I want to make the most of this and need your help.

    Also, like I mentioned my goal aside from putting on a lot of mass is preventing side effects. What do I need to take PCT and during my anabolic cycle to prevent unwanted side effects?

    What is a good cycle?
    Last edited by bihgoliath; 11-03-2013 at 02:57 PM.

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    I've been able to find out that I need to take HCG to prevent my nuts from shrinking and bromocriptine, vitamin b6, and/or cabergoline to prevent unwanted prolactin levels.

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    Your first cycle should not include tren. Test only for first cycle. Try reading the stickies on this forum to et a better idea. There is a lot of knowledge to be soaked up on this site.

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    I'd have to agree with Phoenix here. You say you want to avoid sides and yet you're going with Tren for a first cycle. Tren can have some nasty side effects from what I've read. I haven't even considered a Tren cycle yet. We haven't even touched on the fact you're too young to cycle anyway. If you do cycle, Test only is your best option. You'll need more than 10cc though.

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    Diet and cardio is what you need.

    Your are too young and too fat for AAS. I'm sure others will expand on this but I need my beauty sleep.

    Please visit our nutrition forum for guidance.

    And remove that price from your post, we don't discuss prices, thanks.
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    300mg 10cc=3000mg test?

    I know I'm probably too young to cycle but I just feel like it's something that I need to do. I feel like with a good execution a tren/test cycle wouldn't do me the amount of harm that everyone hypes it up to be.

    Keep in consideration that I have a tremendous nutritional partitioning knowledge, have been lifting weights for 5 years and am on the verge of hitting my genetic potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath View Post
    300mg 10cc=3000mg test?

    I know I'm probably too young to cycle but I just feel like it's something that I need to do. I feel like with a good execution a tren/test cycle wouldn't do me the amount of harm that everyone hypes it up to be.

    Keep in consideration that I have a tremendous nutritional partitioning knowledge, have been lifting weights for 5 years and am on the verge of hitting my genetic potential.
    25% bodyfat indicates that you either have poor nutrition knowledge or zero application/willpower.

    Please remove that price.
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    Kind of judgmental if I must say. I just recently completed a cut in which I got down to 6% bf and weighed a staggering 217 lbs as of 08/21/2013. I have climbed up to the high 260s as of my last weigh in on 10/31. Weight loss is not a problem for me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath
    Kind of judgmental if I must say. I just recently completed a cut in which I got down to 6% bf and weighed a staggering 217 lbs as of 08/21/2013. I have climbed up to the high 260s as of my last weigh in on 10/31. Weight loss is not a problem for me at all.
    Can I see a pic of you at 6%

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath View Post
    Kind of judgmental if I must say. I just recently completed a cut in which I got down to 6% bf and weighed a staggering 217 lbs as of 08/21/2013. I have climbed up to the high 260s as of my last weigh in on 10/31. Weight loss is not a problem for me at all.

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    I'm tired of you judging me on this thread man... I don't have poor nutrition knowledge; I am studying dietetics in the #3 university for nutrition in America. I recently went from 255lb to 217lb naturally in 3 months. As far as willpower goes I can stand to eat the same food at the same time every day for days on end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath View Post
    Kind of judgmental if I must say. I just recently completed a cut in which I got down to 6% bf and weighed a staggering 217 lbs as of 08/21/2013. I have climbed up to the high 260s as of my last weigh in on 10/31. Weight loss is not a problem for me at all.
    Not judgmental no. Are you saying in the last 10 weeks you have gained 53bs???????

    217lbs @6% = 204lbs LBM
    270lbs @ 25% = 203lbs LBM

    So you gained all that weight and lost muscle as you did so?
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    What is the point of BSing? I came here to get some advice not to be flamed by seasoned users and moderators.

    Thanks for the help everyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath View Post
    What is the point of BSing? I came here to get some advice not to be flamed by seasoned users and moderators.

    Thanks for the help everyone...
    If you feel you have been flamed rather than questioned on your 'unusual' results then please feel free to report me.

    Good luck with whatever you plan to do.
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    Yes. I took 6 weeks off from the gym and the diet and went out with my friends every weekend and got shit faced drunk. Ate all the food that I wanted - call it a bit of a break. I was getting really stressed out at work and needed it. I am now getting back in the gym as of 2 weeks ago without a diet yet in place. Starting this coming Monday my macros will consist of: 330g carbs, 250g protein, 110g fat. When I begin my cycle the numbers will increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bihgoliath
    Yes. I took 6 weeks off from the gym and the diet and went out with my friends every weekend and got shit faced drunk. Ate all the food that I wanted - call it a bit of a break. I was getting really stressed out at work and needed it. I am now getting back in the gym as of 2 weeks ago without a diet yet in place. Starting this coming Monday my macros will consist of: 330g carbs, 250g protein, 110g fat. When I begin my cycle the numbers will increase.
    upload the pic 6% I wanna see!

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