most cost effective cutting compound?

**adrenaline99** · 11-03-2013, 10:02 PM

what's gonna be the most cost effective? because anavar , primo, and mast are all STUPID expensive and winny doesn't seem to be worth the side effects.

**redz** · 11-03-2013, 10:04 PM

Are you running it alongside test? masteron and winstrol have fairly similar side effects.

**adrenaline99** · 11-03-2013, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Are you running it alongside test? masteron and winstrol have fairly similar side effects.

Of course, I'm on trt so I'll blasting depending on my t3 dosage. Would injectable winstrol be any better? It's such a cheap compound so it's so appealing in that regard but seems a lot of people hate it with a passion, personally I'm afraid of hair loss as I'm 24 and my hair is already noticeably thinning.

**redz** · 11-03-2013, 10:10 PM

What about Tren ? oh wait you don`t want sides. Hmmm.

**Bonaparte** · 11-03-2013, 10:31 PM

There isn't such a thing.
We pay for primo and var because they don't cause so many sides.
If there was something cheap and effective that doesn't cause many sides, don't you think that's all we'd use?

**austinite** · 11-03-2013, 10:49 PM

Masteron is expensive? Get a new source.

**kronik420** · 11-03-2013, 10:51 PM

cardio

**songdog** · 11-04-2013, 02:26 AM

Diet diet diet!

**clarky.** · 11-04-2013, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by kronik420

cardio

Originally Posted by songdog

Diet diet diet!

This is the best

**MuscleInk** · 11-04-2013, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

This is the best

Agreed. Go for the two for one special of "eat less, move more" (diet+cardio).

**ironbeck** · 11-04-2013, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by kronik420

cardio

x2...

**adrenaline99** · 11-04-2013, 04:16 AM

Yeah honestly I probably won't bother with anything except increasing test dosage to maintain mass and just significantly increasing cardio from 20 minutes 4x a week to 45 minutes 6x a week.

**adrenaline99** · 11-05-2013, 03:12 AM

I'm now nearing my goal BF of sub 9%(10% atm)..I've only used test/t3 throughout this cutting cycle. I'm going to try both winny and mast to finish it off, my question is how effective is AR-R 's topical spiro, along with some Nizoral shampoo going to be to stave off hair loss/thinning while using these DHT derivatives, I'm not sure if I have the MPB trait or not, but will these two things combat hair loss if I do in fact possess the trait for going bald?

**PistolPete33** · 11-05-2013, 06:11 AM

Curious about the hairloss products as well.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-05-2013, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by adrenaline99

I'm now nearing my goal BF of sub 9%(10% atm)..I've only used test/t3 throughout this cutting cycle. I'm going to try both winny and mast to finish it off, my question is how effective is AR-R's topical spiro, along with some Nizoral shampoo going to be to stave off hair loss/thinning while using these DHT derivatives, I'm not sure if I have the MPB trait or not, but will these two things combat hair loss if I do in fact possess the trait for going bald?

just curious, what body fat percent were u at when u started? how long have u been cutting? am curious to how effective the T3 has been for you?

**adrenaline99** · 11-05-2013, 10:48 AM

I started at 14% t3 was extremely effective I might have even gone too fast. It took 8 weeks on 2100 cals.

**Bonaparte** · 11-05-2013, 10:50 AM

Yeah, those topicals will help, but you'll probably still lose some hair if you're prone to it.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-05-2013, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by adrenaline99

I started at 14% t3 was extremely effective I might have even gone too fast. It took 8 weeks on 2100 cals.

14% to 9% in 8 weeks is great for sure. What was ur test/T3 dosage? How did it make u feel? How is ur strength now compared to 8 weeks ago?

Wat r ur stats?

**adrenaline99** · 11-05-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

14% to 9% in 8 weeks is great for sure. What was ur test/T3 dosage? How did it make u feel? How is ur strength now compared to 8 weeks ago?

Wat r ur stats?

My test dosage was increased from 200 trt dosage to 300 and 75mcg t3. Also ran Austinite's fat loss supps which helped a lot I believe. I think the t3 makes me a tad fatigued tbh but it could have been the low cals/carbs I'm eating too. Im 24 yrs old, 5'9, 185 lbs 10% bf down from 14% 195 lbs.

**bass** · 11-05-2013, 05:02 PM

glad to know T3 worked for you, I can't wait to start mine!

**--->>405<<---** · 11-05-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by adrenaline99

My test dosage was increased from 200 trt dosage to 300 and 75mcg t3. Also ran Austinite's fat loss supps which helped a lot I believe. I think the t3 makes me a tad fatigued tbh but it could have been the low cals/carbs I'm eating too. Im 24 yrs old, 5'9, 185 lbs 10% bf down from 14% 195 lbs.

195lb 14%bf = 167.7lbs LBM

185lb 10%bf = 166.5lbs LBM

10lbs lost and only 1.2 of it lean plus 4%drop in bf is very good for 8weeks dude.. Cant ask for better than that.

**adrenaline99** · 11-05-2013, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by bass

glad to know T3 worked for you, I can't wait to start mine!

T3 is unbelievable when paired with something to hold onto muscle like test...i love the hell out of it.

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

195lb 14%bf = 167.7lbs LBM

185lb 10%bf = 166.5lbs LBM

10lbs lost and only 1.2 of it lean plus 4%drop in bf is very good for 8weeks dude.. Cant ask for better than that.

yeah i spent a lot of time planning my diet...It's amazing what proper dieting can accomplish

**adrenaline99** · 11-05-2013, 07:57 PM

Anyways does anyone have experience running Ar-r 's topical Spiro with mast or winny? hair loss is the only concern I have as I will be running them for only 6 weeks.

**austinite** · 11-05-2013, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by adrenaline99

Anyways does anyone have experience running Ar-r's topical Spiro with mast or winny? hair loss is the only concern I have as I will be running them for only 6 weeks.

Jimmyinkedup does. He recommends it alongside ketoconazole.