Went in to have T checked, came out with a full blown cycle.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 06:38 AM

So first a little about me since this is my first post. I'm 38, 6'2" 230lbs, been training off and on all my life but seriously for the last 5 years. I got serious about getting in shape when I realized I was 300lbs and was having a hard time going up the stairs. Lost 85lbs and looked like shit, gained up to about 240lbs cut back to 230lbs and have been floating there for awhile. Most of my training has been in a powerlifting style but the last 6 months I've switched to a BB style as I fell I'm decently strong at this point and would like to look it. Putting that out so you know I'm not a complete newbie.

The last 4-5 months everything had kind of stalled in the gym, in the bed room and all the other typical signs of low T. I've never been interested in steroids and never bothered learning anything about them but figured that I'd have my T checked and if I got something cool if not cool too. I went to the doc who took blood and we discussed the results, my levels are good for a 65 year old. He gave me script for T 200mg once a week. I asked about this excess skin I have around my stomach that won't go away after the weight loss, he suggested HGH. I thought ok sure. Got 2 months worth.

First cycle was 200mg of test and 20 units HGH MWF for 8 weeks. Nice noticeable gains, I was thrilled.

My next visit I was all this is great!!! Can we kick it up a bit? I'd done a bit of research and noticed that most were running 500mg of test and thinking this would be the direction we'd go. How wrong was I.

My current cycle:

200mg test x2 week
100mg tren x1 week
50g anadrol x1 daily
50g clomid MWF
20 units HGH MWF

Anyway, my question. This seems like a lot of gear for a second cycle but I know jack shit? I've started trying to learn which has me concerned. I should be able to trust him, which is why I went for it. Please excuse my ignorance but I never thought I'd be in this position it just kind of happened. I'm trying my damnedest to learn. Good problem to have I suppose.

FTR I have been on this for 2 weeks and have noticed no side effects.

Thanks and sorry for the wall O text.

**JackedJesse** · 11-06-2013, 07:50 AM

Did he give you an aromatase inhibitor?

**austinite** · 11-06-2013, 08:10 AM

Welcome...

I'm confused. Your doctor is helping you with this?? Either way you need to get your TRT dialed in before you experiment.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by JackedJesse

Did he give you an aromatase inhibitor?

No, he did not, do I need one? I'm sure it won't be a problem. Thanks.

**austinite** · 11-06-2013, 09:36 AM

Are you 38 or 65?

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Welcome...

I'm confused. Your doctor is helping you with this?? Either way you need to get your TRT dialed in before you experiment.

Yes my doctor is helping me with this. After the first cycle my T levels were in the 900's and I felt great. Don't mean this to sound shitty but I'm not experimenting, just doing what the doc told me to do.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Are you 38 or 65?

I'm 38. My T levels WERE normal for a man the age of 65 per my doc.

**austinite** · 11-06-2013, 09:38 AM

Who is the lab that makes your Tren ?

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Who is the lab that makes your Tren?

There's another reason for concern, no label on the bottle. Just a vial full of brown/yellow oil.

**austinite** · 11-06-2013, 09:43 AM

Sorry pal... one of two things going on here...

1. Your doctor is clueless and risking losing his license to practice (unlikely)
2. You're not telling us the entire truth.

Something is fishy about your scenario, so i will leave it for others to decipher.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Sorry pal... one of two things going on here...

1. Your doctor is clueless and risking losing his license to practice (unlikely)
2. You're not telling us the entire truth.

Something is fishy about your scenario, so i will leave it for others to decipher.

I have no reason to come here and lie. The whole thing is fishy to me as well, I didn't think you could just walk into a clinic and buy this stuff.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-06-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by yadnod

There's another reason for concern, no label on the bottle. Just a vial full of brown/yellow oil.

LOL.. and where did u get this bottle? from the doc office? hes just handing out blank bottles huh..

**Back In Black** · 11-06-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by yadnod

I have no reason to come here and lie. The whole thing is fishy to me as well, I didn't think you could just walk into a clinic and buy this stuff.

And did you buy this from a clinic under prescription?

Are you actually on TRT or just cycling? If the latter did you run a PCT last time?

I know you have a script but it doesn't sound like you are using it.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

And did you buy this from a clinic under prescription?

Are you actually on TRT or just cycling? If the latter did you run a PCT last time?

I know you have a script but it doesn't sound like you are using it.

I bought everything except the tren , HGH and anadrol from a pharmacy with a prescription, those came from the clinic, with a little ghetto script that looks like it was made with WORD. I hadn't really thought about if I'm cycling or on TRT because all I went to do was get on TRT and now I've got all this other stuff. My intent is to stay on the test but cycle the other more than likely go back to the original 200mg of test while not cycling.

Again, I never thought I'd be in the position it just kind of happened so i'm playing catch up.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

LOL.. and where did u get this bottle? from the doc office? hes just handing out blank bottles huh..

What ever man, don't believe me I don't ****ing care. You want a picture? Don't you think I think it's shady as hell too! Why do you think I'm here looking for help? To waste your time? I got better stuff to do that troll the internet.

**Lunk1** · 11-06-2013, 10:07 AM

I'm confused or missed it somewhere. Where exactly did you get Tren from?

**Back In Black** · 11-06-2013, 10:08 AM

Your clinic gave you tren ? You know tren isn't for human use? You need to never go back to your 'dealer' because that is exactly what he is. He has you on crazy stuff man.

I would suggest you find another doctor. One that specialises in TRT. You could do worse than click the lowtesterone.com link under this post. You could also do worse than reporting your 'dealer' so he doesn't put others at risk too.

Can I ask you to clarify what compounds you used, and in what quantities, when you came off that first cycle?

**--->>405<<---** · 11-06-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by yadnod

I bought everything except the tren , HGH and anadrol from a pharmacy with a prescription, those came from the clinic, with a little ghetto script that looks like it was made with WORD. I hadn't really thought about if I'm cycling or on TRT because all I went to do was get on TRT and now I've got all this other stuff. My intent is to stay on the test but cycle the other more than likely go back to the original 200mg of test while not cycling.

Again, I never thought I'd be in the position it just kind of happened so i'm playing catch up.

Originally Posted by yadnod

What ever man, don't believe me I don't ****ing care. You want a picture? Don't you think I think it's shady as hell too! Why do you think I'm here looking for help? To waste your time? I got better stuff to do that troll the internet.

surely u can understand our skepticism.. if this is true i would do what BIB said and not go back as well as consider reporting this guy. its one thing to choose to run a cycle but its something totally different to operate under the guise of being a legitimate business/doctor and play with peoples health distributing dangerous compounds.

shoot 200mg test is more than likely too high to run long term by itself, let alone everything else.

**Fcastle357** · 11-06-2013, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by yadnod

No, he did not, do I need one? I'm sure it won't be a problem. Thanks.

Hmmmm. Do I need ai on cycle........

**>Good Luck<** · 11-06-2013, 01:26 PM

Probably a fake trt doctor selling gear to those who believe they have low t!

Or a veterinarian. ....

**bass** · 11-06-2013, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

Probably a fake trt doctor selling gear to those who believe they have low t!

Or a veterinarian. ....

^^^ sounds like it!

**--->>405<<---** · 11-06-2013, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

Probably a fake trt doctor selling gear to those who believe they have low t!

Or a veterinarian. ....

Originally Posted by bass

^^^ sounds like it!

u didnt see an unusually large number of people in the waiting room with pets did you??

**EasyDoesIt** · 11-06-2013, 02:31 PM

@yadnod when that place gets popped, they will go through client names addresses etc. You may expect a visit from law enforcement. Not that you did anything wrong as a patient, but just food for thought. Amazing how brazen people are. I have a friend that was buying cialis off of craigslist. Guy was running an ad and delivering to houses. My friend thought nothing of it. I had to call my friend IDIOT on that one.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Your clinic gave you tren ? You know tren isn't for human use? You need to never go back to your 'dealer' because that is exactly what he is. He has you on crazy stuff man.

I would suggest you find another doctor. One that specialises in TRT. You could do worse than click the lowtesterone.com link under this post. You could also do worse than reporting your 'dealer' so he doesn't put others at risk too.

Can I ask you to clarify what compounds you used, and in what quantities, when you came off that first cycle?

He just had me not take the test for 2 weeks, get blood work and put me on the cycle posted above. The more I learn the more I agree, he's a dealer not a doctor. Problem is I've got all this money wrapped up in this gear and need to figure out a safe way to do something with it. Yes it was ignorant to just buy it all but I thought Doctor knows best ya know.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

surely u can understand our skepticism.. if this is true i would do what BIB said and not go back as well as consider reporting this guy. its one thing to choose to run a cycle but its something totally different to operate under the guise of being a legitimate business/doctor and play with peoples health distributing dangerous compounds.

shoot 200mg test is more than likely too high to run long term by itself, let alone everything else.

Completely understand, I still can't believe that it works this way. It's kind a suck situation though because most guys aren't going to try to learn like I'm doing and may end up eff'd up but the guys who know what they're doing have a good source....what to do.

**yadnod** · 11-06-2013, 03:49 PM

So guys, I've got it, what should I do with it? I really liked the results I've gotten just with test and HGH. Should I hold off on the tren and anadrol for another time and just keep with what was working? Do I get and AI and keep going with the plan Dr. Love gave me?
Would rather not throw it down the toilet. Thanks.

**Back In Black** · 11-06-2013, 03:58 PM

Put in the back of a drawer for later use.

Please visit our HRT forum and find yourself a new doctor immediately.

As indicated about its doubtful you even need have of your 'prescription'. Less is more.

Good luck.

**--->>405<<---** · 11-06-2013, 04:41 PM

^^x2!!

get ur protocol dialed in. figure out ur maintenance dose for the test, whether u need an ai and if so the dose for it, HCG .. etc.. theres a lot to it man.

forget the adrol and tren for now. itll be there later.