Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

[tdoe11]

I knew nothing of this contamination and the other threads talking about the contamination. I haven't been in touch with CM for a long while. I never repped this thing about contamination and since. In my defense Admin and you guys , tonight is the first I've heard of it. Tonight on this thread. All my mistakes or rule breaking was long ago and not current at all. Nothing with this issue now, so please back of this stuff today, Please? ...crazy mike

In mikes defense. He is not a cm rep. He is however a member that has helped me personally in depth. He has given me solid advice and helped me when I needed it. I have multiple messages in my box I can forward to admins that clearly show he is not a rep. We did talk about cm, but he was not pushing or trying to sell anything. He never told me to get ahold of them, or how amazing their gear was. He was one of the predominant members on this site helping people almost around the clock. Now everyone is calling him names and bad mouthing him. Most of you have no beef with him your just a bunch of punks joining the band wagon.

I ran cm test/npp combo. At first I liked it, although the pip and swelling was absolutely insane. At first I was growing and I thought the pip was go with time. Once Marcus came out telling everyone it was under dosed and dirty it made me think. With what he said and the absolutely unbearable pip, I mean huge swollen delts and tris I thought there might be some legitimacy.

Who cares if this is a personal vendetta against cm, or there is actual proof. If I am wondering if my gear is contaminated it is going in the trash. That's just me.

Rip it up as you will, I just feel bad mike has been turned into something I know he is not.

[Mp859]

He is gone for a reason.

[tdoe11]

He is gone for a reason.

I don't know man. I haven't been on here in the past couple weeks. Maybe something happened I am not aware of. The dude helped me a lot though, and did not rep anything to me. It sucks out of all the people he helped no one chimes in for him?

Edit: I just read through a couple messages from him. In one he was telling me he has plateaued on cm test and he wants to get another brand or pharma to verify the potency and break his plateau. That sound like a rep? Just saying. I'll forward it to anyone who wants to read it

[Mp859]

I don't know man. I haven't been on here in the past couple weeks. Maybe something happened I am not aware of. The dude helped me a lot though, and did not rep anything to me. It sucks out of all the people he helped no one chimes in for him?

Maybe admin or staff would be willing to let you know why he got banned I obviously don't know EXACTLY why

[tdoe11]

Maybe [mention]admin[/mention] or staff would be willing to let you know why he got banned I obviously don't know EXACTLY why

Who knows. It is what it is man.....

[Lunk1]

Crazy Mike helping people? The only thing I ever saw him do was agree with any vet that had already offered sound advise and talk in circles.

I don't recall one single thread where he actually provided great advise...he just screamed it louder than others.

[Back In Black]

Just because he didn't put you in touch with them doesn't mean he didn't others.

Ultimately he broke our rules, as did several others. No matter how much help a member (including staff) gives, if you break the rules that's it.

Remember, you don't know anybody you converse with on the Internet.

[tdoe11]

Just because he didn't put you in touch with them doesn't mean he didn't others. Ultimately he broke our rules, as did several others. No matter how much help a member (including staff) gives, if you break the rules that's it. Remember, you don't know anybody you converse with on the Internet.

I get it. Just seems odd that a rep would openly question the quality of the testosterone he was supposed to be repping?

[BluPhin]

I don't believe Mike was repping CM. I had several discussions with Mike over the course of my membership to this forum and he never pushed CM gear. He offered advice on cycles, injecting, workouts, etc.

I eventually contacted CM via his website. I ordered some gear and ran a cycle. I know the dbol was bunk since I did not have any size or strength gains at all. In fact, I did not even experience any sides like water retention, etc. The test e may have been legit but the PIP was intolerable. I use glutes for injection sites and I could not walk without limping because my hips were in so much pain.

Back in Black has a very good point though. You really do not know anyone that you meet on the internet. Buying gear online is a huge risk.

[EasyDoesIt]

This is a internet forum, it's free to join, there is a wealth of knowledge here. The owner of the site owes no one anything because it is his/her site.
If they ban members and kick them out, that is their business, the way i see it they owe no one an explanation. There is information they are privy to that members no nothing of. If they feel a member jeopardizes their business they can do whatever they want. There may even be legal reasons not to go in depth as to why they ban a member. The answer of "they broke the rules" is all anyone needs to know. IT'S FREE HERE! Please be clear, I am not speaking for Admin, but have owned businesses, paid rent and structured my rules, so when i make a decision to do something as long as it's mine and not your's i can do what i want. Hope that doesn't sound to harsh, but all the defending banned members and there must be an agenda, blah blah will not change who is in charge nor does it give anyone rights to know why? I've always felt if you don't like the way things are being done, try to start your own and manage it 24/7 and you may find out it is not as easy as you think. There are internet laws and i am betting the Admin has to retain legal counsel once in awhile just to be safe. When someone starts jeopardizing a person's business, you back them into a corner and action has to be taken.

Just thought i would throw my two cents in.

[MuscleInk]

This is a internet forum, it's free to join, there is a wealth of knowledge here. The owner of the site owes no one anything because it is his/her site.
If they ban members and kick them out, that is their business, the way i see it they owe no one an explanation. There is information they are privy to that members no nothing of. If they feel a member jeopardizes their business they can do whatever they want. There may even be legal reasons not to go in depth as to why they ban a member. The answer of "they broke the rules" is all anyone needs to know. IT'S FREE HERE! Please be clear, I am not speaking for Admin, but have owned businesses, paid rent and structured my rules, so when i make a decision to do something as long as it's mine and not your's i can do what i want. Hope that doesn't sound to harsh, but all the defending banned members and there must be an agenda, blah blah will not change who is in charge nor does it give anyone rights to know why? I've always felt if you don't like the way things are being done, try to start your own and manage it 24/7 and you may find out it is not as easy as you think. There are internet laws and i am betting the Admin has to retain legal counsel once in awhile just to be safe. When someone starts jeopardizing a person's business, you back them into a corner and action has to be taken.

Just thought i would throw my two cents in.

Not harsh at all. Plain and simple truth.

[Hazard]

I don't know man. I haven't been on here in the past couple weeks. Maybe something happened I am not aware of. The dude helped me a lot though, and did not rep anything to me. It sucks out of all the people he helped no one chimes in for him?

Edit: I just read through a couple messages from him. In one he was telling me he has plateaued on cm test and he wants to get another brand or pharma to verify the potency and break his plateau. That sound like a rep? Just saying. I'll forward it to anyone who wants to read it

Listen..... I have a pm from a member that shows mike asking him to pick what he wants off the list. Mike going him directions on how to pay..... And even for the member to send him the number so HE can collect funds.

He's gone for good..... He broke the rules.

[austinite]

What's with all the nonsense. Rules were broken, people were banned. The end.

[MuscleInk]

What's with all the nonsense. Rules were broken, people were banned. The end.

The end.....I like that. Can we re-write the opening thread to read, "once upon a time"? Would make a nice story since it included some trolls and heroes.

[AD]

what happened to the mystery character erik? looks like Crazy was the only one to get banned.

[Lunk1]

Should have been booted for being a dumb ass along time ago!

[hell911]

even though im not using any chemicals yet, still its good to see efforts done by this forum mods/members.

also, im still at page 3, very interesting read!

EDIT: oh thank GOD, i just finished reading the whole topic, time to sleep , bye.

[tdoe11]

Listen..... I have a pm from a member that shows mike asking him to pick what he wants off the list. Mike going him directions on how to pay..... And even for the member to send him the number so HE can collect funds. He's gone for good..... He broke the rules.

Wholy smokes, fair enough. I was never insinuating he should be allowed to come back, clearly that is not my choice. I also wasn't asking why he was banned, I just felt like a turd standing by watching everyone demonize him since he has helped me. I haven't been on here much in the last few weeks. This is the case then I stand corrected dude. Damn what a trip how things are so clearly unclear sometimes. Carry on as usual

[clarky.]

bump for the unaware ppl

[bass]

just saw this thread... ayayay! like Austinite noted in the original post, not everything is reveled due to ongoing investigation. but rest assured the decision was made with allot of consideration and with evidence.

[Black]

This is what makes a forum. You can find the 'broscience' just about anywhere, but people looking out for others isn't nearly as common. Thanks Staff.

[Euroholic]

^ hear hear

[realgear]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

[kelkel]

Thank you for being upfront with all of this. Many would not. It's a valuable lesson to everyone about the inherent dangers with ugl's. You very well may have saved many other people from the same fate.

[AD]

Thank you for being upfront with all of this. Many would not. It's a valuable lesson to everyone about the inherent dangers with ugl's. You very well may have saved many other people from the same fate.

Might even save 1 or 2 lives

[APM]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

WOW!!! Thank you for letting everyone know. Very glad that you regained your health!!

[MajorPectorial]

Is there no way of having a name n shame sticky on known bad/under dosed gear? I know we aren't a source board. Bit I think it'd be better to keep any member aware of any known "problematic ugls". If nothing else it keeps members safe. Glad tour home and on the mend real gear. Like ppl said. If u hadn't of spoken out. No one would have known n god knows how many would or still even might be in your position now not knowing about it.

[clarky.]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

Good to hear your on the mend realgear and back with your family.

[Zodiac82]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

good to hear things are better....

if u dont mind could u say what were some of the signs that alerted u that this was more than your "normal" soreness or redness at the site...

figured it would help me and others to kno what signs to looks out for and not just wait to see if it subsides

thanks

[MartyMcFly]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

Glad you are better. I can't believe anyone would brew such dangerous gear. Hope they get MRSA and aren't as lucky as you.

[ma_fighter]

Just so you know I don't care what anyone thinks thanks to chemical gear and mike my ass was literary cut into and my leg has a 3 inch cut into it where my infection started then my body went septic and finally I was about to die I was on 6 different antibiotics trying to find which one would kill the type of mrcer I had and finally 7 days later I was released from the hospital and able to go back home to my kids.. My wife squealed on me about using to the doc who asked for a sample and he promised he would not show to authorities where a form of cellulitis was growing in the chemical he said this stuff your using is breeding bacteria!!!! I want to tell all the people who helped me and prayed for me thank you im ready to goto the doc right now to get these things pulled out my ass and THANK YOU FOR GETTING RID OF THE TRASH MIKE AND CM!!!!!! I really appreciate it all.

Yeah, thanks for being so open. And I'm really glad to hear you're getting better!

I've gotten cellulitis twice, that shit is nasty!!
Never had it as bad as you, but been red and swollen from my knee to my butt, with my thigh a good 40cm bigger than normal.

Good luck on the continued recovery mate!

[AlphaMike]

What a read! cleared up a lot of questions I had regarding the whole situation. Definitely sticky material.

[Hazard]

There's reasons why we keep some members anonymous through our "investigation" - it HAD to be done that way. Once we were confident in the situation - we took care of it as best we could have.

The staff is here to help guys...... Not hurt. Thank-you RealGear for coming forward.... You didn't have to.

[The Dirty South]

I just would to say thanks to all the staff. This is the only site I know of that the staff goes to all this effort to help us out. It really means a lot. Warms my heart


-Dirty South

[realgear]

First I would like to thank the staff and all these great member your words have really helped me through this time and thank you for taking out the trash.. I seen a question about what alerted me it was crazy I did my usual in the quads its easy for me to do my wife helps with the butt shot :-) but I did the quads myself pulled with an 18 shot with a 22 Cleaned vial with alcohol pad to make sure sterile and use two different pins one to pull and one pin I also used another alcohol pad to clean the area. Cause I know what some people may think Owe it wont happen to me he was probly using dirty pins HELL NO IM SUPER CLEAN and buy factory sealed stuff well it started out as a red bump a little thick tissue normal but the next day it itched like hell so I didn't scratch it of course but I did notice it was a little bigger but still ignored it 2 weeks later it went from the size of a quarter the size of a dollar bill I started to worry but still didn't go well guess what like a dumb ass I had took another shot in the glutes :-) well needless to say the same shit started happing back there and then my quads were so swollen I couldn't get my pants off my wife made me goto the ER where a disease control specialist came in and they ran multiple test on me and found out I had mercer which was active in my blood stream also known as going septic they said if it gets into bones or Heart or brain I would not make it out of there after 7 days of ****ing torture 2 iv's and constant antibiotics until they found what would kill this strand finally the swelling starting going down after they put a 3 inch cut into my quad and stuff it every day with cloth t keep it open then pulled the cloth out and restuffed it imagine that lol it felt like I was getting stabbed everyday and then last but not least getting two tubes stitched into your ass to let the pus drain out and you cant sit down@!@@ FIRST SIGN RED SWOLLEN FEVER HOT To the toUCH!!!! Listen even if you lie and say something like I first told them I was pulling carpet out of a house and an old sewing needle hit me in the leg GET HELP!!! please this was the worse pain ive ever had in my life oh and to let everyone know the tubes are out!!! Will I be using gear again I cant lie I will but I wont buy from just anyone ever again I played Russian roulette with my life.. And you know what made me trust Crazy Mike was his post count I thought in my head well hell someone with that many post must be a swell person and know what hes talking about MY ASS!!! HE DID everyone please be careful and remember don't use anything it could be mercer in a bottle called TEST E 300!!!

[realgear]

And the scariest thing about it all he can make a new account tomorrow talk jibber jabber and get high post count change his Stickers on his bottles and share his trash to you if someone is more then happy to push there gear on you and they don't know you theres an issue!

[JAMIE07652]

Wow , what a read . Thx to the staff for looking out for everyone's safety . Real gear , glad your on the mend . After reading everything , my question is this . When buying ulg gear we all know your taking a risk , is it bunk , under dosed , will it be sent at all and now will it kill me . After this near tragedy , should some one ordering anything other then pharmacy gear filter it themselves in a best practice for safety ?

[austinite]

Wow , what a read . Thx to the staff for looking out for everyone's safety . Real gear , glad your on the mend . After reading everything , my question is this . When buying ulg gear we all know your taking a risk , is it bunk , under dosed , will it be sent at all and now will it kill me . After this near tragedy , should some one ordering anything other then pharmacy gear filter it themselves in a best practice for safety ?

It's rare that folks would re filter gear. Certainly not a bad idea, but not many will go through it. Either way, all we can do is be cautious and expose any UGL's selling poorly developed gear.

[Megalodon6]

even though im not using any chemicals yet, still its good to see efforts done by this forum mods/members.

also, im still at page 3, very interesting read!

EDIT: oh thank GOD, i just finished reading the whole topic, time to sleep , bye.

No way I can read this whole thread lol

[Euroholic]

Im curious how does buying gear even come up in a pm? If someone comes to you and trys to sell you something its a scam. A drug dealer will never come to you.