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    Beginner cycle - Test E

    Hi all, I've been lurking a while so thought I'd make my first post. I started my first cycle last Friday with the following:

    Test E 500 E/W split in to two shots.
    Arimidex eod 0.25mg
    Pct to be tamoxifen and clomid.

    I also have HCG on hand but I hand not started taking this yet as I've read in multiple places that I don't need it until week 4 with test E.

    Anyway what I'm asking is can I add 4 weeks of dbol at 30mg a day to this so I start seeing gains quicker?

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    Sorry phone cut message short. I've been training 5 years with my diet pretty strict for 2. I'm 24 5ft 8 around 188lbs at 14%.

    Anyway is dbol a good addition or should I keep it test only for my first cycle?

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    You could add in the dbol but it's not necessary.

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    By adding it will the increased side effects outweigh the advantages?

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    Double post

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    It's hard to say everyone reacts differently dbol most definitely has a high rate of conversion to estrogen.

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    Fair enough I'll just stick with the test. Can't wait for it to kick in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89 View Post
    Fair enough I'll just stick with the test. Can't wait for it to kick in!
    Good call. That way just incase there are any sides you will know what caused it.

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    Smart move bro! Keep your 1st few cycle test only.That is all you really need with a proper diet.Too many people think they need to increase the dose or stack after their 1st cycle.Nothing could be further from the truth.

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    Thanks, I'm running it for 10 weeks is this long enough? I was planning 12 but I'm going on holiday to tenerife and I will be finishing pct the day before I fly out. I don't really want to be taking anything abroad with me or will I be safe to take clomid and tamoxifen with me on the flight? If so I will run for 12 weeks.

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    10 weeks is just fine bro.I would suggest you stop by the diet section and have them checkout your diet.This will insure max results from your cycle.Good luck bro!

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    Good luck. Sounds like a solid first go around. Remember to listen to above post and hit diet forms. 100 percent most important thing you will do to make or break this cycle.

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    Will do, I've just done my second shot and a bit of oil leaked out when I took the needle out, is this normal? I don't know if it did it on my first shot in my glute as someone else did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89
    Will do, I've just done my second shot and a bit of oil leaked out when I took the needle out, is this normal? I don't know if it did it on my first shot in my glute as someone else did it.
    After you inject let the needle sit in there for a few seconds before pulling it out. Should allow it to disperse a little and not leak out

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    Will do next time. Are delts/glutes the best places to shoot as a beginner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89
    Will do next time. Are delts/glutes the best places to shoot as a beginner?
    First place I ever injected was quads. Easiest to get to and you can see everything you are doing

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    I thought about quads but was chose not to because I've seen quite a few posts on here saying its more painful because of the extra nerves in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89
    I thought about quads but was chose not to because I've seen quite a few posts on here saying its more painful because of the extra nerves in them
    That's the best beginner spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    First place I ever injected was quads. Easiest to get to and you can see everything you are doing
    Agreed. Easy to get to and can see exactly what is going on. I know a lot of people use another person to help with injections but I would personally do it myself. I did it on my cycle and would not trust anyone else(maybe a doctor) to do my injection. I used quads also and it went fine. There are a lot of reasons to do it yourself...nothing wrong with someone else doing it but whoever dose it better have YOUR best interest in mind and know exactly what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    First place I ever injected was quads. Easiest to get to and you can see everything you are doing
    This is true. For me though quads are always the most painful. Sometimes the pip will last 3 to 4 days. PIP can also depend on the gear and concentration.

    We are all a little different and have are favorite spots to pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcastle357
    .nothing wrong with someone else doing it but whoever dose it better have YOUR best interest in mind and know exactly what they are doing.
    I got my cousin to do it as he is an experienced user and I trusted his technique. I'm going to give quads a go on Friday and see how that goes. Did my delt before and that went ok apart from leaking! That was the first one I did myself though, sure it'll get better with practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrow89

    I got my cousin to do it as he is an experienced user and I trusted his technique. I'm going to give quads a go on Friday and see how that goes. Did my delt before and that went ok apart from leaking! That was the first one I did myself though, sure it'll get better with practice
    Kind of awkward having someone else pin your quad...

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    I meant I'll do it myself lol. I did my delt earlier, just didn't want to do the first shot myself. Glute was pretty awkward to tbh

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