Deca

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 08:48 PM

Hey guys second cycle here. 21 years old, ps I'm aware of the endocrine system. But I have 50 pills of dbol at 30mg. Deca nandralone 300mg/ml and 3 vials of test cyp for 2 shots a week at 500 mg. also have arimidex and Nolva on hand. How would you guys arrange this stack. Do I have to have clomid and hcg if If I'm just going to cruise on more test after? Thanks guys

**austinite** · 11-17-2013, 08:49 PM

Welcome,

You will get replies soon.

**P0RK CH0P** · 11-17-2013, 08:57 PM

What are your stats?

Body fat?

What was your first cycle?

Originally Posted by Bink

Hey guys second cycle here. 21 years old, ps I'm aware of the endocrine system.

Good, then you should know that you should wait a few more years, and train hard naturally.

**Megalodon6** · 11-17-2013, 08:59 PM

No no no to young man. Do not run this cycle

**Lunk1** · 11-17-2013, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Megalodon6

No no no to young man. Do not run this cycle

Could you explain in detail why he should not run the cycle?

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 09:27 PM

Yes I would like to understand why not. Also stats are 187 probably around 10% body fat. Also I've been training very hard since 16. I've gained a lot naturally. Not to brag but I have a pro mentality already I'm in it to win it my diet is also very strict and I've done years of research on why I eat what I eat. I feel I've built I good base. First cycle was just test cyp

**Megalodon6** · 11-17-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Could you explain in detail why he should not run the cycle?

No prob lunk. Bink I ran tren which is very similar to deca when I was 21. About 4 months after I stopped my cycle I had a lot of testicle atrophy. My sex drive went down the gutter I had no sex drive couldn't maintain an erection. I had no idea what I was doing and after some reading I attempted a standard pct nolv/ clomid 40/40/20/20 100/100/50/50.

This helped a lil I could get a erection but could not maintain it sometimes. Very little sex drive. I'm now 23 and I'm still fighting these problems. This is slowly but surely tearing my marriage apart. My wife tells me all the time she is sick of this and wants a divorce. I might have to go on trt for the rest of my life just so I can be normal.

Now all this coukdve been avoided if I would've just simply did a little reading. I highly advise you to not run this cycle. But if you do plz read all the stickies. Read read read.

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 09:33 PM

And worse case scenario if I didn't do it then what finish my cyp and use the Nolva to come off?

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 09:38 PM

Is there an alternative other than a 19 nor compound like that that's not so suppressive but gives good gains? Anadrol ?

**Megalodon6** · 11-17-2013, 09:40 PM

Testosterone Cypionate + HCG + Dbol?

Read this. If you were to do just your test c you would still need both nolv/clomid. 40/40/20/20. 100/100/50/50

**Megalodon6** · 11-17-2013, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bink

Is there an alternative other than a 19 nor compound like that that's not so suppressive but gives good gains? Anadrol?

Wouldn't advise you to run anything until your older because of my situation. I don't understand why would you wanna risk this

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 10:29 PM

I understand the concerns and I appreciate them, as I have a girlfriend I've been with for 5 years. I also wants kids, but I really want to reach the pro ranks one day down the road

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 10:42 PM

Not only that but what if I don't plan on being the conventuals steroid user I'm planning on cursing and not necessarily coming off

**Lunk1** · 11-17-2013, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bink

I understand the concerns and I appreciate them, as I have a girlfriend I've been with for 5 years. I also wants kids, but I really want to reach the pro ranks one day down the road

Post some pics, lets see how you have progressed on your journey to pro

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM

**Bink** · 11-17-2013, 11:28 PM

I'm not a show stopper or anything but obviously everything takes time. I'm only twenty one. And the pros now are like mid 30's

**Lunk1** · 11-18-2013, 12:09 AM

Props.

**Bink** · 11-18-2013, 01:06 AM

Is there anyway to deleted a thread or post?

**austinite** · 11-18-2013, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Bink

Is there anyway to deleted a thread or post?

No. But you can edit and remove the contents of you posts.

**Bink** · 11-18-2013, 01:18 AM

How so?

**austinite** · 11-18-2013, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Bink

How so?

Click on the [

Edit Post ] link at the bottom right of any of you posts.

**Bink** · 11-18-2013, 01:25 AM

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sorry and them what, just trying to delete a pic

**fit2bOld** · 11-18-2013, 08:32 AM

Keep up the hard work.
Give nutrition a chance bro. As a former competitor this will change your whole world. If you truly think you have what it takes to go pro your nutrition is what makes and or breaks a career. You should be able to gain and hold onto 220 lbs just by doing this. Without drugs.