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11-17-2013, 02:04 PM #1New Member
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Newbie/First Cycle Questions: AIs, Sleep and Strength
Hi folks,
Started my first cycle. Got a few questions and I hope you pros can help.
Here's my current situation:
1. Started a program that I got from a friend who in turn had it mae from a well-known medical practitioner. I'm currently on my 2nd week (third injection's due on Tuesday).
2. Starting stats were 148 lbs, 8% BF, 32 years old. I've been training for a good 7 years now. Currently weighing in at 159 lbs and 14% BF, 2 weeks into program. I'm 5'7".
3. It's a 12-week program:
W1-W12 TestE 500 mg/wk (single injection per week)
W1-W6 Oxymetholone (oral Anadrol ) 100mg ED
4. Not using any AI or SERM during the cycle.
5. I was way too eager to start so I didn't get any bloodwork done before hand. Did get a testosterone check a year ago and I was in the lower ranges and my cholesterol was also very low. I usually have low blood pressure and have a very high resting heart rate.
6. I've put on about 11 lbs in 2 weeks. A lot of it is water weight because the electrical impedance device put it at 14% today. That's a 6% rise in 2 weeks.
I've got a few questions:
- Should I be using Nolvadex or Arimidex on my cycle? Maybe that's why I'm retaining so much water? I haven't seen any signs of gyno as yet.
- If I do use Nolvadex and Arimidex, I understand (from my online research) that the dosage would be 10mg for Nolvadex and .25mg for Arimidex ED. Would prefer avoiding Arimidex because it's fu*king expensive!
- I haven't seen any serious strength gains as yet. Energy's up in the sense that my cardio endurance has gone up. A bit disappointed in this regard but maybe I need to wait another week for it to kick in?
- I've been sleeping like anything! 7 hours at night and then a 1-2 hour nap during the day. What's up with that? I'm not lethargic or tired - just sleepy.
Looking forward to some helpful responses!Last edited by 51747; 11-17-2013 at 02:08 PM.
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11-17-2013, 03:47 PM #2
My advise would be to stop right now. Get everything squared away with your blood work. And have all of your supplies on hand before you start.
You need an AI and HCG on cycle.
Also the anadrol isn't necessary your first time, so drop that.
Yes use the arimidex on cycle.
Nolvadex and Clomid should be used post cycle (PCT) not on cycle.Last edited by P0RK CH0P; 11-17-2013 at 03:50 PM.
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11-17-2013, 05:37 PM #3
Surely your using armidex on cycle ?! If not your more prone to side effects like gyno / water retention and dont watch anything like titanic or youll start crying uncontrolably.
Id end at start PCT using clomid and nolvadex , otherwise your just going to mess your body up why did you not get educated.
Also id take HCG to stop your plums turning into grapes.( next cycle)
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11-17-2013, 05:41 PM #4Productive Member
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Definitely need to revise your cycle. If you decide to keep going with it (and I think most do) read this and apply what it says to minimize the damage
My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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11-17-2013, 05:48 PM #5Junior Member
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need AI to stop the water weight
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11-17-2013, 07:05 PM #6
I think Alpha Mike nailed it. Read the stickies, and see if you can finish better than you started.
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11-17-2013, 08:13 PM #7New Member
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Thanks everyone!
I've actually been going over the stickies here in quite some detail over the past few days. I read up on them before posting. The thing is, that even with stickies, there is some variation in information (Check out Cycles for the Newbie post along with the one posted here earlier); which is the reason I posted.
From what I am gathering, I should be taking an AI or SERM or both?
Also, any suggestions/comments on my other questions?
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11-17-2013, 08:27 PM #8
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11-18-2013, 09:58 AM #9New Member
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