How on earth can TREN increase estrogen even when used with ADEX?
I've read and heard this allot today and could be suffering from this myself.
Does some tren actually contain pure estrogen??
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How on earth can TREN increase estrogen even when used with ADEX?
I've read and heard this allot today and could be suffering from this myself.
Does some tren actually contain pure estrogen??
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You never know what you're getting with UGL. You could be shooting straight estrogen.
Maybe your testosterone is converting too much, I know you're not running tren alone.
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Depends on who made it. If it's a dirty bag, they might just dissolve revelor.
From the manufacturer:
" 10 Dose Revalor-H Implants for Cattle Hoechst Roussel Contains 140 mg of trenbolone acetate and 14 mg of estradiol in each implant. For use in heifers fed in confinement for slaughter. Revalor implants combine both a synthetic male hormone (trenbolone acetate, 140mg) and a female hormone (estradiol, 14mg) making them more effective for increasing average daily gain than any other implants on the market. Not to be used in animals intended for breeding or in dairy animals. For SQ implantion in ear only. Revalor H is a growth implant for heifers fed in confinement for slaughter."
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Interesting. I thought Fina H did not contain estrogen. Only Fina S. Guess I was wrong.
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That would explain allot. It fits the profile exactly.Originally Posted by Java Man
So it's not converting, it actually contains estrogen in the oil. So no amount of ADEX will help.... But Aramosin works differently, would that work or even that won't be enough to control the estrogen?
That's messed up, and it was a good lab too.....
Last edited by athletic.guy; 11-17-2013 at 11:21 PM.
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You running Tren alone?
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I wouldn't conclude that based on the description of revelor.
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There's 4 or 5 different ones listed here. All contain varying dosages of both. I guess it depends on how you like your steaks
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No way. I was using it with test e and winny's and pregnyl (250iu twice week)
I stopped everything once my estrogen shot up. Had no idea some labs make Tren with estrogen. They must of forgot to mention that on the label....
I give it a couple weeks and re-test. Ill continue tamaxofin 10mg ed with aramosin 50mg ed for now.
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Ok, I guess I don't understand why you're thinking your tren is the cause and not testosterone...
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Can you share the ugl with us so we don't make the same mistake bro?
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Because I was using 1mg ed of arimadex and stopped my test shots and my estrogen continued to climb over 400 pg/ml (1500 pmol/l)
But I have no sides at all....... Just allot of blood work.
It's easy to test. Once my level return ill have a ml of tren alone. If my estrogen raises, then it must be estrogen in the tren.
Last edited by athletic.guy; 11-18-2013 at 12:20 AM.
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Who makes your arimidex?
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It's genuine from pharmacy.
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Just going to ask that
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Yeh FINA got estrogen if its not converted properly. But saying that I'd have thought it still cheaper to by proper raw tren. Why would they bother with the hassle of converting finaplix? What test ester were u using n how long after u stopped the testosterone did u get bloods?
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Everything stopped 2 weeks ago and estrogen was at its peak.
Test and tren was enanthate. I've had 4 blood test in the last 2 weeks and estrogen hasn't dropped yet.
And I was on high dose of AI's from day 1....
It's the tren 4 sure....
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His Adex is the real deal.
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I'm struggling with 1mg of adex ED not handling it anyway.
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I've read a lot about blood tests reading tren as estrogen. I'm at work so I don't have a link at the moment. But google it and results should come up
Last edited by OnTheSauce; 11-18-2013 at 11:00 AM.
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Well if that's true that would explain why no sides....
Oh, and for those who are interested, I've already halved mg estrogen level in the last 4 days. Got blood results today.
Ill start test shots again soon but leave out tren and return to aramosin @ 50mg ed.
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I'm reading more and more about tren giving false high estrogen levels.
My levels have dropped from 400 down to 150 and now that's its down I feel like shit. Low libido, no motivation, feel like I just woke up all day, and a lil spaced out.
But last week I felt great. WTF IS GOING ON !!!!
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Careful with that stane @ 50mg daily. I tanked my estrogen on 25 about 8 months ago. I do 12.5 eod now when cycling. None of course when off like now. I've read that it's difficult to tank on stane alone. I disagree. Since it's suicidal, it takes longer to recover from it if you do.
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Much prefer aromasin to adex. Little to no rebound effects to. My e2 was sky high, was running 200mg test and 400mg tren e. My e2 was at 722! highest ever been, knocked back my tren dosage to 200mg a week, than i stopped the tren e. Began 25mg ED of aromasin first 2 weeks, than EOD, than the last week every 3rd day, my e2 now stands at 140, not to high and not to low perfect
The tren played a huge contributing factor i believe.
Last edited by boz; 11-19-2013 at 10:51 PM.
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Did you get any sides?? Mine was 1500+ with no sides...Much prefer aromasin to adex. Little to no rebound effects to. My e2 was sky high, was running 200mg test and 400mg tren e. My e2 was at 722! highest ever been, knocked back my tren dosage to 200mg a week, than i stopped the tren e. Began 25mg ED of aromasin first 2 weeks, than EOD, than the last week every 3rd day, my e2 now stands at 140, not to high and not to low perfect
The tren played a huge contributing factor i believe.
I'm getting the feeling that TREN shows up as estrogen in blood work, because even if tren contained 50mg of pure estrogen per ml, you couldn't go from 100 to 1500+ pmol/l in a couple weeks.
Last edited by athletic.guy; 11-20-2013 at 04:18 AM.
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