can i use tamoxifen instead of arimidex ?

[moss33]

im 23 years..5.8 .. 176 pound with 13% bodyfat first cycle was test alone befor 2 years,, second was test cyp 500 week with methanabol tablets first 4 weeks,, and in last 4 weeks of cycle ive been using winni tablets with the test cyp.and this was 6 months before ./im going to run deca 250 ml a week with test cyp 500 ml and mesterone 50 ed...i have hcg to run after and tamoxifen to take care of gyno cuz i couldnt find nolvadex or arimidex where i live..will tamoxifen keep me away of gyno ? .. if there is anything wrong in this cycle ill be more than happy to get advice and help .. thanks
cheers

[austinite]

no..

[moss33]

no..

oky then what do you suggest me to do ?

[austinite]

Don't cycle. Pretty simple.

[moss33]

i already bought deca test and mesterone and cant wait to start it ..why everyones talking like this..im tryin to get help here from more experienced guys and no ones helping..maybe it will be better if u helped me out with some other thing that keeps me away from gyno..idnw bt thanks anyway

[austinite]

Well, moss. I want to help you. But you don't want to help yourself. You don't have an AI. It's like asking how to drive without breaks. The only logical answer is... Don't Drive.

Just because you have something doesn't mean you need to use it. Your drugs won't expire for many many years. Just hang onto them until you're ready. Don't half-ass it, do it right.

There's far far far far far more to an AI than gynecomastia prevention.

[moss33]

okay thanks so tell me what kind of anti estrogen i have to buy so i can search for them..many told me that tamoxifen is as same as nolvadex both are anti estrogens ..so nolva is the only thing i can use after ?

[austinite]

Tamox/Nolva is a selective estrogen receptor modultar. Not an aromatase inhibitor. You need arimidex or aromasin .

Just read this: My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

Answers everything.

[moss33]

thanks for helpin me with this... ill try to find one of those..and will read this
cheers

[MuscleInk]

okay thanks so tell me what kind of anti estrogen i have to buy so i can search for them..many told me that tamoxifen is as same as nolvadex both are anti estrogens ..so nolva is the only thing i can use after ?

^^^You should start reading up and stop taking advice of half-wits that don't know what they are talking about. Nolvadex is tamoxifen but it isn't an AI, it's a SERM - selective estrogen receptor modulator. What you need ON cycle is an aromatase inhibitor (AI), not a SERM. An AI will block aromatase activity since the aromatase enzyme is key in converting testosterone to estrogen and you want to block that process in cycle.

Elevated estrogens can cause far greater problems than just gynecomastia as I (and many many others) have written on here in multiple threads numerous times. You aren't spending enough time educating yourself or you would understand the differences and why an AI is necessary.

Elevated estrogens can cause blood thickening, clots/embolisms to form, increase risk for stroke, heart attack, peripheral artery disease, prostate disease, loss of sex drive, erectile dysfunction.....and more.

As Austinite has said, your line of questioning makes it clear you are not knowledgable enough to be cycling steroids . These things are far from innocuous so do yourself a favor and WAIT. We are here to provide safe education and that includes telling a member not to cycle if it is apparent they are improperly prepared.

[moss33]

yea your totally right but when i asked the pharmacy he told me that we jst have tamoxifen ..so i asked u guys if it have the same effect..and ur right i have to read more and more...but ill try to find arimidex or aromasin and if i did found it why not to run the cycle ? ill try to tell my uncle so hell send it from usa..isnt it legal to ship it ?

[MuscleInk]

yea your totally right but when i asked the pharmacy he told me that we jst have tamoxifen..so i asked u guys if it have the same effect..and ur right i have to read more and more...but ill try to find arimidex or aromasin and if i did found it why not to run the cycle ? ill try to tell my uncle so hell send it from usa..isnt it legal to ship it ?

You need a doctor's script for pharma grade anastrozole (arimidex ), exemestane (Aromasin ) or letrozole (femara) unless you purchase a bio similar from a UGL or research lab.

Hint: check the forum sponsor (Ar-r .com) for liquidex (arimidex) or liquid stane (exemestane).

[jimmyinkedup]

^^ This. Click the arr banner at the top right corner of your screen.

[adrenaline99]

Ar-r .

[Trex69]

Hi

I know I've gone about this ass about but I'm about to cycle off 8 weeks of test and deca , (all i could get my hands on and needed help for aesthetics in a weeks time).

Week 1: deca 50mg oew
Week 2: deca 50mg oew
week 3: deca 50mg oew
week 4: sustajet 250 1ml owe
week 5: sustajet 250 1.5ml owe
week 6: sustajet 250 1.5ml oew
week 7: sustejet 250 1 ml owe
week 8: deca 50mg owe, sustajet 250 .25ml oed

I have seen good moderate results and have ordered some tamox and clomi from ar-r . What doses would you recommend.
Again i know i ****ed up and should have educated more, (thats what you get for taking advise from the gym) Im glad i found this forum as i an understanding more with each day
thx

[moss33]

haha thx bro !! ur the best i swear ill try to ask everywhere here if didnt find it tomorrow ill order it from this lab!!
jst tell me how u suggest running them and when ? i have 10 ml or deca 250 vsm laboratories ..and 20 ml of test cyp 250 also vsm . and mesterolone british dragon 50 tablets of 50 mg and hcg
sorry if im bothering you and thanks for everything

[MuscleInk]

haha thx bro !! ur the best i swear ill try to ask everywhere here if didnt find it tomorrow ill order it from this lab!!
jst tell me how u suggest running them and when ? i have 10 ml or deca 250 vsm laboratories ..and 20 ml of test cyp 250 also vsm . and mesterolone british dragon 50 tablets of 50 mg and hcg
sorry if im bothering you and thanks for everything

Liquidex;
0.25mg every other day (EOD)

OR

Liquid Stane
12.5mg every day ED

Take DURING cycle.

No harm in asking. That's why we're here!

[MuscleInk]

Hi

I know I've gone about this ass about but I'm about to cycle off 8 weeks of test and deca , (all i could get my hands on and needed help for aesthetics in a weeks time).

Week 1: deca 50mg oew
Week 2: deca 50mg oew
week 3: deca 50mg oew
week 4: sustajet 250 1ml owe
week 5: sustajet 250 1.5ml owe
week 6: sustajet 250 1.5ml oew
week 7: sustejet 250 1 ml owe
week 8: deca 50mg owe, sustajet 250 .25ml oed

I have seen good moderate results and have ordered some tamox and clomi from ar-r . What doses would you recommend.
Again i know i ****ed up and should have educated more, (thats what you get for taking advise from the gym) Im glad i found this forum as i an understanding more with each day
thx

Best to start a new thread so not to hijack another member's.

For clomid, several possibilities:

100/50/50/50 or
75/50/50/50 or
50/25/25/25 (my personal preference)

Nolvadex
40/20/20/20

[moss33]

Liquidex;
0.25mg every other day (EOD)

OR

Liquid Stane
12.5mg every day ED

Take DURING cycle.

No harm in asking. That's why we're here!

thanks alot bro i really appreciate.. ill get the armidex or the liquidex..and will post you my results and let u know..and about taking mesterolone,,thats good right ?
and next time youll find me alot better than now ill keep reading

[MuscleInk]

thanks alot bro i really appreciate.. ill get the armidex or the liquidex..and will post you my results and let u know..and about taking mesterolone,,thats good right ?
and next time youll find me alot better than now ill keep reading

Depends on current bf. Proviron and masteron produce the best results when bf is low, preferably about 12%. I prefer the injectable form, masteron, but being a DHT derivative, monitoring prostate is important as it can lead to various forms of prostate disease. Still, it's one of my favorite compounds, but managing potential sides is very important with Proviron/mast IMO.

[kronz]

You have tamoxifen but can't find nolva? You know Nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate right ?

[MuscleInk]

You have tamoxifen but can't find nolva? You know Nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate right ?

He should by now.

[moss33]

You have tamoxifen but can't find nolva? You know Nolvadex is tamoxifen citrate right ?

I have tamoxifen but cant find arimidex ,,arimidex is what i need bro

[moss33]

Depends on current bf. Proviron and masteron produce the best results when bf is low, preferably about 12%. I prefer the injectable form, masteron, but being a DHT derivative, monitoring prostate is important as it can lead to various forms of prostate disease. Still, it's one of my favorite compounds, but managing potential sides is very important with Proviron/mast IMO.

Yea and how can i manage them? Do u think its better if i changed the mast with dbol ? And on what doses per week/day u suggest to run my cycle ?

[MuscleInk]

Yea and how can i manage them? Do u think its better if i changed the mast with dbol ? And on what doses per week/day u suggest to run my cycle ?

That depends on your goals brother. Two very different compounds. Proviron /mast is often used to lean/dry out. Dbol holds a lot of water and is often used for bulking cycles. You should be selecting your compounds based on goals.

Best way to control prostate issues is with 5-10mg Cialis daily.

[kelkel]

That depends on your goals brother. Two very different compounds. Proviron /mast is often used to lean/dry out. Dbol holds a lot of water and is often used for bulking cycles. You should be selecting your compounds based on goals.

Best way to control prostate issues is with 5-10mg Cialis daily.

Best thing ever.

[austinite]

Can you guys stop talking about Cialis? You realize she's taken, right?...

[kelkel]

Can you guys stop talking about Cialis? You realize she's taken, right?...

Yes, and I'll have my way with her later tonight as well.

[austinite]

This sucks.

[MuscleInk]

Can you guys stop talking about Cialis? You realize she's taken, right?...

I thought you were using the European name, Cyalis.

[kelkel]

This sucks.

It's actually a three-some as Ms. Doxazosin will be there as well.

[moss33]

Yea so ill stay with mast im bulking but i dont like to hold alotof water..god cant wait till see arimidex or liquidex in my hand ,,

[moss33]

And also will be waiting for my turn with cialis !!
Alotta big guys right there cant do anything.. but waiting for my turn

[austinite]

And also will be waiting for my turn with cialis !!
Alotta big guys right there cant do anything.. but waiting for my turn

no way. Don't listen to the sluts above. She's taken.

[MuscleInk]

no way. Don't listen to the sluts above. She's taken.

Hey! That's "man whore" thank you very much!!!!!

[moss33]

Hahaha

[moss33]

You need a doctor's script for pharma grade anastrozole (arimidex ), exemestane (Aromasin ) or letrozole (femara) unless you purchase a bio similar from a UGL or research lab.

Hint: check the forum sponsor (Ar-r .com) for liquidex (arimidex) or liquid stane (exemestane).

Hey bro i found a pharmacy and told me that he have Anastrozole (Arimidex)
And tomorrow morning i can go and have it !! how do u suggest me to use it? The doses ,, i guess im starting my cycle today

[moss33]

Is it 0.5 mg eod ?

[DAAS]

no way. Don't listen to the sluts above. She's taken.

Austin if i call her by a different name is that okay?

[MuscleInk]

Is it 0.5 mg eod ?

Start @ 0.25mg EOD