Legality.

[Anthony355]

Hello, I'm very new to all of this, but I want to begin building my dream body..... But I'm having a lot of trouble. I have slim to no knowledge at all about the legal situation of buying from this site. I'm currently an American citizen, and I have no Idea if it is legal for me to buy the steroid Tren 75 off of this website legally?

So my question is am I legally able to purchase Tren 75 from this website with no worries of legal problems?

[austinite]

Welcome aboard,

The compounds you're referencing are not steroids . They are steroid alternatives . They are perfectly legal and safe.

[Anthony355]

Wow, this really does go to show how much I know. But thank you so so much, this has helped me so much. Also when you say "alternatives" what do you mean? Are they the same thing as the actual steroid just changed a bit, or is it something completely different? And are the results the same?

[dem_gains]

Don't take the steroid alternatives they won't do anything
For you. Need the real stuff

[dem_gains]

The site is misleading and makes it seem like they are steroids unless you read the fine print. Complete waste but people will try refrain from saying so in such explicit language given they are a site sponsor

[austinite]

Wow, this really does go to show how much I know. But thank you so so much, this has helped me so much. Also when you say "alternatives" what do you mean? Are they the same thing as the actual steroid just changed a bit, or is it something completely different?

No, they're not steroids at all. They're blends of legal compounds that will give you an edge if your nutritional plan is in place. It's a great start while you research real steroids.

[Anthony355]

Wow, that is quite the let down......

[austinite]

Well, we're not a source board. You won't find steroids here.

[Anthony355]

I see you have banned him......... That is not a good look if you ask me.

[austinite]

I see you have banned him......... That is not a good look if you ask me.

What are you talking about?

[MuscleInk]

The site is misleading and makes it seem like they are steroids unless you read the fine print. Complete waste but people will try refrain from saying so in such explicit language given they are a site sponsor

I disagree. Time and time again we have told people they are not steroids . The sponsor has a disclaimer. When you buy Tylenol or Ibuprofen, from the drug store, do you take the time as a consumer to read the package insert regarding all reported side effects? They are there but few people take the time to read the insert.

The sponsor has a similar disclaimer, if people do not take the time to read that disclaimer and make an informed decision on the product they are purchasing, why should we bash the sponsor? Very typical. Rather than take ownership of their own problem(s) they'd rather point the finger and blame someone else.

....and no, I'm not an employee or beneficiary of the sponsor nor do I have a vested interest in marketing their products. I am however, an INFORMED consumer.

[Igifuno]

Strange words from a new member..

[MuscleInk]

I see you have banned him......... That is not a good look if you ask me.

Banned who? What?

[Bert]

I say you try the tren 75 and tell us how it works for you.

[Red Bastard]

I disagree. Time and time again we have told people they are not steroids . The sponsor has a disclaimer. When you buy Tylenol or Ibuprofen, from the drug store, do you take the time as a consumer to read the package insert regarding all reported side effects? They are there but few people take the time to read the insert.

The sponsor has a similar disclaimer, if people do not take the time to read that disclaimer and make an informed decision on the product they are purchasing, why should we bash the sponsor? Very typical. Rather than take ownership of their own problem(s) they'd rather point the finger and blame someone else.

....and no, I'm not an employee or beneficiary of the sponsor nor do I have a vested interest in marketing their products. I am however, an INFORMED consumer.

The big difference is that Tylenol and Advil advertisements don't make wild claims like "as good as morphine", "just like oxy" or "cures your pain forever"

The disclaimer is good. The claims are not.

[DPTUK]

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[qscgugcsq]

I disagree. Time and time again we have told people they are not steroids . The sponsor has a disclaimer. When you buy Tylenol or Ibuprofen, from the drug store, do you take the time as a consumer to read the package insert regarding all reported side effects? They are there but few people take the time to read the insert.

The sponsor has a similar disclaimer, if people do not take the time to read that disclaimer and make an informed decision on the product they are purchasing, why should we bash the sponsor? Very typical. Rather than take ownership of their own problem(s) they'd rather point the finger and blame someone else.

....and no, I'm not an employee or beneficiary of the sponsor nor do I have a vested interest in marketing their products. I am however, an INFORMED consumer.

With all due respect I disagree, Even it is said somewhere it is far from obvious and they purposely use steroids name on their product to make people buy it thinking its actual steroids...

It is not written steroids alternative is their publicity, its written steroids.

they try to mislead people on purpose.
They have the right to do it, it do not mean thats its legit or fair
...

I do agree that they are legit supplement that can help. but I disagree with the way they present their suplements.

their is no reason whatsoever to use these terms if it is not to mislead uninformed people... Even though its a legal marketing trick, I still do not support it. And IMO their intention is to scam people into thinking they buy real AAS.

But thats just my .02

Someone willing to buy illegal subtance with a credit card on a site called buysteroids.com is certainly not informed enough for real steroids anyway...

[austinite]

With all due respect I disagree, Even it is said somewhere it is far from obvious and they purposely use steroids name on their product to make people buy it thinking its actual steroids... It is not written steroids alternative is their publicity, its written steroids. they try to mislead people on purpose. They have the right to do it, it do not mean thats its legit or fair ... I do agree that they are legit supplement that can help. but I disagree with the way they present their suplements. their is no reason whatsoever to use these terms if it is not to mislead uninformed people... Even though its a legal marketing trick, I still do not support it. And IMO their intention is to scam people into thinking they buy real AAS. But thats just my .02 Someone willing to buy illegal subtance with a credit card on a site called buysteroids.com is certainly not informed enough for real steroids anyway...

seems like you can read. Why not read before you buy? It's not rocket science. You 'd have to be a very dense individual. Maybe you should read the ingredients, which are also listed. I use the very se ingredients daily and they work great. Again, all you need is the ability to read. Stupid people should never buy anything at all, ever. They should just stay at home or in a basement somewhere.

Besides. Aren't you like 17 or 18 years old? You don't need anything else.

[ickythump]

this whole thread is ridiculous... companies can claim whatever they want, regardless of legality of the supposed substances.... there is a disclaimer.... if you can't read into a product that can permanently affect your bodies natural system then you shouldn't buy anything related to that product, end of story

[MuscleInk]

The big difference is that Tylenol and Advil advertisements don't make wild claims like "as good as morphine", "just like oxy" or "cures your pain forever"

The disclaimer is good. The claims are not.

Because they (drug companies) are FDA regulated and making such claims would result in significant fines and incarceration.

Nutraceutical companies are NOT regulated and can make just about any claim they see fit to promote a product, Red. The banner sponsor has done nothing different than the same ridiculous claims made by the manufacturers of products sold at GNC, Nutrishop, Vitamin Shoppe, or any other commercial nutrition store (econsumer or any brick and mortar store) you care to visit. Is a "mass gainer" a muscle gainer!?! No, it's a fat inducing, sugar-laced pail of garbage.

Is it right that these distributors and retailers make these outlandish claims? No, but until such products are better regulated by someone (doesn't have to be the FDA, I couldn't give a rats' ass if the FDA does, so long as an independent party with no economic interests in said products is appointed to do so), these "absurd" claims will continue.

What irks me most is when the consumer cries, "I was duped" and there is a disclaimer specifying the limitations of a product. Some guy sees "free bottle of steroids " (now think about this, someone is giving away a free bottle of an illegal drug.....hello.....you should skeptical) and without reading anything about the product, throws his hard earned money at it without doing any further research. You know the saying, "a fool and his money are easily parted"......exactly!!!!

[MuscleInk]

With all due respect I disagree, Even it is said somewhere it is far from obvious and they purposely use steroids name on their product to make people buy it thinking its actual steroids ...

It is not written steroids alternative is their publicity, its written steroids.

they try to mislead people on purpose.
They have the right to do it, it do not mean thats its legit or fair
...

I do agree that they are legit supplement that can help. but I disagree with the way they present their suplements.

their is no reason whatsoever to use these terms if it is not to mislead uninformed people... Even though its a legal marketing trick, I still do not support it. And IMO their intention is to scam people into thinking they buy real AAS.

But thats just my .02

Someone willing to buy illegal subtance with a credit card on a site called buysteroids.com is certainly not informed enough for real steroids anyway...

No kid, you're wrong. See my last post about the same tactics employed by GNC and every other vitamin and supplement store.

Like I said, a fool and his money are easily parted. I know that comment will sting some people and elicit some backlash, but when a product is not regulated, it's up to the consumer (not the seller) to educate oneself about a product.

.....and if that's not an acceptable answer, people can file complaints with the company itself or consumer protection agencies. Bitching and crying about it and calling foul play on an Internet forum won't likely have the momentum to set in motion a retraction of presumably false marketing claims. Get a grip.

[ghettoboyd]

im sorry but if someone is stupid enough to think they can buy real steroids clicking on the first site that comes up on a google search...well then you are an idiot...do you really think its that easy?...

[austinite]

By the way... that website is NOT a sponsor.

[MuscleInk]

seems like you can read. Why not read before you buy? It's not rocket science. You 'd have to be a very dense individual. Maybe you should read the ingredients, which are also listed. I use the very se ingredients daily and they work great. Again, all you need is the ability to read. Stupid people should never buy anything at all, ever. They should just stay at home or in a basement somewhere.

Besides. Aren't you like 17 or 18 years old? You don't need anything else.

^^^Exactly!!!!!!

[MuscleInk]

im sorry but if someone is stupid enough to think they can buy real steroids clicking on the first site that comes up on a google search...well then you are an idiot...do you really think its that easy?...

Amen to that brother!

[Red Bastard]

By the way... that website is NOT a sponsor.

What's the definition of a site sponsor then?
More then just a similar name and lots of add space?
Or, do they actually own the forum?

[austinite]

Sponsors pay for advertising space.

[dem_gains]

I'm sorry but anybody who does not think buysteroids is misleading completely lacks the ability for critical analysis.

Just 3 minutes on the website is enough...

Just looking at the advert banner; the word 'steroid ' is in a different colour for emphasis and it even states 'we ship without prescription' intending to mislead the consumer into thinking they are steroids (i.e something like testosterone which is prescription only)

So then I click on the first product I see on the website which happens to be tren 75; and here it says "Tren 75 ® is universally recognized as pound for pound the strongest anabolic available!" NO ITS NOT. THAT IS A COMPLETE FALSEHOOD. And then it goes on to list all the properties of real tren (i.e hardening effects etc). NOWHERE does it provide a disclaimer stating that it is not steroids... you could go through the entire process of purchasing this product (as the add to cart button is nice and easy to find in bright yellow) without knowing these arent steroids.

The small disclaimer at the bottom of the page is ambiguous at best. There is only one sentence in there which could be construed in any way to suggest these aren't steroids and it is not clear whatsoever.

I mean the website even calls its products steroids for goodness sake. And NOBODY here connotates 'steroid' with their weak fake products.

Having had a quick gloss over the idiocy above...

When you buy Tylenol or Ibuprofen, from the drug store, do you take the time as a consumer to read the package insert regarding all reported side effects? They are there but few people take the time to read the insert.

That is a terrible analogy and does not correspond accurately with the problem at hand. Ibuprofen never claims to be something it is not which is the KEY difference here. It is completely standard practice for products to list their side effects on the side. Why don't you make a company selling fake gold watches and claim them to be real gold and see how far you get... The reason the sponsor doesn't get prosecuted is because it is comparing itself to illegal products and thus can get away with claiming to sell "the most powerful anabolics" is because anabolics is a relative term and the the 'anabolics' it sells are probably the most powerful LEGAL anabolics.

To claim that a consumer would have to be an idiot to purchase these products without being misled is extremely naive. It is the duty of the seller to provide consumers with an accurate and informed view of their product and not seek to get sales through deception (which is exactly what the sponsor is doing). Regulated industry or not. Large retailers/manufacturers have been taken to court and rung out to dry for huge sums of money for claims MUCH less misleading than this. Hell even contracts with clauses in fineprint that drastically undermine or alter the terms of the contract have held to be unconscionable and must be brought to the attention of the consumer. Fineprint is fine for listing side effects but cannot be used as a mechanism to mislead consumers and call them 'idiots'. Despite the 23423423 claims on our website READ the 1 sentence of fineprint DUMMY (which is ambiguous anyway).

This post has gone on long enough so I will sign off by saying that I find it completely ironic how members get banned for misinformation about steroids when right up the top of the website there is this misleading sponsor almost laughing at us. If you even write the words buysteroids on these forums it automatically forms a hyperlink to the site so that the unaware browsers of the forum can get scammed. And of course you forum mods will disagree with me because you have an agenda. But any unbias and critical viewer cannot reach a conclusion any different from the one I've just made. Hate to point out the hypocrisy but any associations with buysteroids.com should be completely removed from this forum

So guys... engage your brain, think critically and don't let yourself be scammed. Good day.

[austinite]

^ Seem passionate, like you're only here for this very purpose. 24 posts and quite a few are related to this topic already, in several threads. Like I said, it's not a sponsor. That website is this website So if you have such an issue with it and are here to spread your nonsense, go elsewhere.

Easy peasy, everyone is happy.

[dem_gains]

I joined almost two months ago? My only posts on this issue are in this thread? Of course I am going to post when I see a poor guy confused and about to get scammed. Isn't that what you do when you see someone being misled? Well since the websites are linked that is even worse. This site gets a lot of traffic due to the wisdom it imparts to future steroid users...of course the owner would like to make a bit of cash on the side if he can dupe people into buying fake products.

All about $$$$ and greed. What I say is not nonsense. If you can refute any point I have made then go ahead and try... but you wont succeed lol.

[austinite]

I joined almost two months ago? My only posts on this issue are in this thread? Of course I am going to post when I see a poor guy confused and about to get scammed. Isn't that what you do when you see someone being misled? Well since the websites are linked that is even worse. This site gets a lot of traffic due to the wisdom it imparts to future steroid users...of course the owner would like to make a bit of cash on the side if he can dupe people into buying fake products.

All about $$$$ and greed. What I say is not nonsense. If you can refute any point I have made then go ahead and try... but you wont succeed lol.

lol. you're so young, and confused. Scammed? Yeah, maybe if he never attended school, at any level. Probably shouldn't be buying bottled water either.

Grow up, kiddo. Don't be afraid to leave this scamming place, for good. You won't be missed. There isn't a website online today that takes care of members in a safe matter such as we do. Every single steroid related website is packed with clumsy clowns telling teenagers such as yourself to inject tren to no end.

[MuscleInk]

I joined almost two months ago? My only posts on this issue are in this thread? Of course I am going to post when I see a poor guy confused and about to get scammed. Isn't that what you do when you see someone being misled? Well since the websites are linked that is even worse. This site gets a lot of traffic due to the wisdom it imparts to future steroid users...of course the owner would like to make a bit of cash on the side if he can dupe people into buying fake products.

All about $$$$ and greed. What I say is not nonsense. If you can refute any point I have made then go ahead and try... but you wont succeed lol.

It's called capitalism and if you don't like it, file a complaint and move on.

Now you sound like a whinny little brat.

.....and you really want to go down that road of critical analysts with me? I'll wipe my arse with you and send you home to your mommy you snot nosed self-entitled little boy.

[dem_gains]

Oh lord you meatheads just make it all too easy for me...

A straw man argument is an argument often used by those of low intellectual capacity and occurs when a person attributes a false position to their opponent and then tears that down in attempt to bolster their own position.

Putting that in simple terms for you; you are unable to come up with any cogent arguments against me so you make completely false claims. I'm a teenager that tells people to inject tren now? Good lord. What are you going to invent about me in your next post?

Critical analysis not critical analysts muscle ink. But go ahead and try lol. I wish you the best of luck lol. You'll need it. But please act your age and refrain from the personal insults.

[austinite]

Hold on kid, I'm on the phone with 911, a Waaaambulance should arrive at your location soon...

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[MuscleInk]

Oh lord you meatheads just make it all too easy for me...

A straw man argument is an argument often used by those of low intellectual capacity and occurs when a person attributes a false position to their opponent and then tears that down in attempt to bolster their own position.

Putting that in simple terms for you; you are unable to come up with any cogent arguments against me so you make completely false claims. I'm a teenager that tells people to inject tren now? Good lord. What are you going to invent about me in your next post?

Critical analysis not critical analysts muscle ink. But go ahead and try lol. I wish you the best of luck lol. You'll need it. But please act your age and refrain from the personal insults.

Tough Internet guy. Good to see you're familiar with a thesaurus and a few courses if philosophy and logic. I was in university while you were still crapping in your diapers and yes BOY I'm more than familiar with the fallacious reasoning you reference as a straw man argument - hell I was even minoring in philosophy before medical school which was while you were probably having the crust cut off of your PB&J sammies by mommy while you watched cartoons.

You really want to compare resumes? Go for it hot shot. This should be fun. I generally don't take to humiliating people but you caught me at a rare moment today. By all means, share with us the profound levels of success you've achieved in the relatively limited life span of yours.

I stand by my original comments. This is a classic example of push marketing (go head, I'll wait while you Google that) to lure customers in. Making false claims is nothing new. Have you been living under a rock? Is it fair? No. Is it deceptive? Perhaps. It's neither the first or last time a retailer will invoke the strategy. A simple read of the label and an intelligent person could deduce the truth behind the product.

Sniveling about here isn't about to change the strategy employed. Now wipe your nose and go find another place to troll on.

.....oh and since my PHONE doesn't do spell check and I'm not here to scrutinize every incorrectly spelled word, by all means, have at it super star.

[dem_gains]

Tough Internet guy. Good to see you're familiar with a thesaurus and a few courses if philosophy and logic. I was in university while you were still crapping in your diapers and yes BOY I'm more than familiar with the fallacious reasoning you reference as a straw man argument - hell I was even minoring in philosophy before medical school which was while you were probably having the crust cut off of your PB&J sammies by mommy while you watched cartoons.

You really want to compare resumes? Go for it hot shot. This should be fun. I generally don't take to humiliating people but you caught me at a rare moment today. By all means, share with us the profound levels of success you've achieved in the relatively limited life span of yours.

I stand by my original comments. This is a classic example of push marketing (go head, I'll wait while you Google that) to lure customers in. Making false claims is nothing new. Have you been living under a rock? Is it fair? No. Is it deceptive? Perhaps. It's neither the first or last time a retailer will invoke the strategy. A simple read of the label and an intelligent person could deduce the truth behind the product.

Sniveling about here isn't about to change the strategy employed. Now wipe your nose and go find another place to troll on.

.....oh and since my PHONE doesn't do spell check and I'm not here to scrutinize every incorrectly spelled word, by all means, have at it super star.

Do you want to compare dink sizes whilst we are at it too? I am not here to insult anyone. Merely to provide the truth...yet I get personally attacked for it lol. But if you care so much I have 2 degrees (including a law degree).

There is a distinction between advertising your product and promoting its benefits vs outright lying and misleading conduct. I agree with you that companies do the former all the time. But the latter? barely ever. It is completely illogical from a business perspective to take your advertising to the point that it is misleading and could result in any actionable wrong. E.g Activia yoghurt had to pay nearly 50 million in damages for claiming falsely that their yoghurt was high in fibre and thus using this to charge a higher price. And I assure you all the $$$ in damages were not worth it. Now compare that to claiming your product is the most "powerful anabolic " on the market (as with the tren 75 example above) and holding your product out to be steroids when in reality you would make more gains on some bunk eq and a test booster. But of course they can probably get away with it because a) "anabolic" is a relative term and it is the most powerful anabolic RELATIVE to what is actually legal and b) from a policy perspective this website acts as a deterrent by ensnaring consumers into buying legal products when they would otherwise be willing to break the law. It is in the government's interest that consumers don't get their hands on the real stuff. So who has the motivation or resources to sue them? Definitely not any government agency nor any poor consumer who just wants 1 bottle of tren. I think you will find that their bottles don't have any disclaimer on at all. Nor do the videos promoting the products and nor do the written product details on the website. Again, I only looked for 5 minutes but all I could find was 1 generic sentence in the fineprint stating "This dietary supplement is not a drug and should be used correctly." And I assure you that false claims on this level are not made by companies.

Anyway, you yourself admit that it is a problem when you state

Is it fair? No. Is it deceptive? Perhaps.

. So that begs the question; why are they allowed to use this forum as a vehicle to sell their products? The products are complete shit which we all agree on. Their selling methods are at best dubious and at worst completely misleading. Yet you are defending them? C'mon...

[kelkel]

Hello, ACLU how can I help you?

Snore......

[austinite]

Hello, ACLU how can I help you?

Snore......

Let's camp outside the building. I'll bring cardboard signs.

[Igifuno]

Soooo yeah that stuff isn't steroids .