Need advice for quality gains

[bluebull]

Purpose of this cylcle is to gain quality muscle & to retain maximum gains even after completing the cycle.



Since certain things cant be mentioned in here as i'm a newbie. I've attached it as an image. kindly help

[austinite]

Welcome. Please list your body stats, cycle history and training history.

[bluebull]

I cant reply with what I want to mention. pls check the img.

[austinite]

This is awfully aggressive for a 3rd cycle, especially considering your experience/experiments in the past have failed. You didn't lose your gains because of your choice of steroids . You lost your gains because it was mostly water and fat, coupled with a poor nutritional plan during and post cycle.

I think it's best to avoid cycling for a while until you learn how to eat. Take advantage of our nutrition section and allow the pro's there to critique your diet.

I'm sure others will chime in, but that is my advice for you.

Best of luck to you.

[AlphaMike]

This is awfully aggressive for a 3rd cycle, especially considering your experience/experiments in the past have failed. You didn't lose your gains because of your choice of steroids . You lost your gains because it was mostly water and fat, coupled with a poor nutritional plan during and post cycle.

I think it's best to avoid cycling for a while until you learn how to eat. Take advantage of our nutrition section and allow the pro's there to critique your diet.

I'm sure others will chime in, but that is my advice for you.

Best of luck to you.

Nothing else to add really bluebull, its not the compounds its YOU, whether you're not eating right, training right, or maybe you even have a physical condition. Either way more compounds and higher doses won't fix the problem.

[jimmyinkedup]

More isnt better. 80 % is diet man. Plus training and rest. Thats really the truth. Mastering them is the key to success.

[bluebull]

Guys pls understand my question. Im gonna do what I've planned. If you want to help me out pls tell me whether I could use the stuff I mentioned for the joint pain.

[MuscleInk]

Guys pls understand my question. Im gonna do what I've planned. If you want to help me out pls tell me whether I could use the stuff I mentioned for the joint pain.

Why do people come here under the pretense of seeking help, only to profess they are going to do what they want to do!?!

The guys are right. You can not underestimate diet. Take anything and everything you want. If your nutrition is poor, results will be poor. It's that bloody simple. Trying to reinvent the wheel by believing otherwise isn't going to change a thing. EQ is a waste of time and money, but you claim to know better.

Look into TB500 or MSM for joint pain.

The joint pain is caused by YOU taking too much gear, not giving your connective tissue time to grow and strengthen and using too much or too many drying agents. There is no miracle cure.

[marcus300]

This is awfully aggressive for a 3rd cycle, especially considering your experience/experiments in the past have failed. You didn't lose your gains because of your choice of steroids . You lost your gains because it was mostly water and fat, coupled with a poor nutritional plan during and post cycle.

I think it's best to avoid cycling for a while until you learn how to eat. Take advantage of our nutrition section and allow the pro's there to critique your diet.

I'm sure others will chime in, but that is my advice for you.

Best of luck to you.

If you ignore the above advice you will be in a worse state than you are now after the cycle ends, listen to guys who know what they are talking about, remember you came here for advice from experienced users.

[Bert]

Do what your going to do. You probably know more then me anyway.

[Psaletta]

More isnt better. 80 % is diet man. Plus training and rest. Thats really the truth. Mastering them is the key to success.

^^^agreed. OP, I ran my first cycle uneducated and kept minimal gains. I too though high dose. Lots of compounds. Still nothing. Training and diet gets you the gains you want. Then continuing the training and diet after is the only way you or anyone will retain gains. Good luck learn to listen to these guys. They know what they are talking about.

[ac419]

People like you run stupid cycles like this and then wonder why they get bad sides. And don't even think about cycling till your diet is sorted