Well i was just reading a thread and some ppl were saying 20 is to young. Well i agree, but now a days there's some many ppl juicing before 20. Sometimes i wish i woulda juiced long ago to be alot farther today, but then again im glad i waited. It just seems like all kids are juicing it now, i know the guy i just got stuff from told me he sold it to 2 kids. And they used the same needle for every shot together. They were complaining the needle just wouldn't go in. Go figure.