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    First cycle - Any advice?

    What's up everyone,

    I'm 19 years old (almost 20) and have been training on and off since I was 14 and very consistently for the past year (the last 10 months I've been in the gym 7 days a week). I'm about to start my first cycle in a couple weeks and already have a general plan but would like some feedback/advice from people that have experience with AAS. My buddy who has done a few cycles already recommended I get test prop, d-bol, and clomid for PCT. They're in the mail on their way. I'm sitting at 8% bodyfat, 180lbs, and 5'11". My diet and training is spot on. Lean meats, healthy fats, complex carbs. A typical breakfast for me consists of 8 eggs(2-3 yolks) with mixed veggies, 2 packets of oatmeal, a handful of almonds, and a double protein shake. For lunch, I usually have a thick turkey sandwich on multi-grain, an apple/orange, and a chicken breast along with some greek yogurt and either some organic peanut butter or another handful of almonds. For dinner I'll usually have two more chicken breasts (8oz approximately) or 2 fish filets, a whole wheat bagel, two slices of multi-grain bread, or 2 sweet potatoes, broccoli, and another double protein shake with milk. I recently successfully cut down from 190-80 in 6 weeks without losing any strength which puts me at 8% bf which is where I'm at now. I know I have a lot more natural gains to make, and I originally wanted to wait to use AAS until I hit 200lbs 8% bf naturally. But after seeing what my friends first cycle did to him, I simply couldn't resist.

    I'm going through with this. I love lifting and I will be lifting till the day I die AAS or not. It is my favorite thing to do and health and fitness is my passion.

    My current plan is inject 100mgs prop EOD, 40mg d-bol ED, and use clomid if any signs of bitch tits or any other feminie qualities appear. I plan on using clomid for my PCT of course as well. I'm no expert, however, and after all the research I've done I still think it's necessary to get some personal advice from people who know what they're talking about. (I realize I should wait till I'm more like 21+ to start AAS, as I've heard a lot of people say.) It's too late now, I already paid a lot of money and I'm not turning back. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    I plan on tracking my progress on this thread also starting when I get the goods in a couple weeks.

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    Seriously not smart at your age. Your HPTA is not fully developed and your endogenous testosterone is probably at its peak right now. Why F with it and risk a ton of issues unnecessarily? There are so many horror stories here regarding the young and steroids . Matter of fact, take the time to read the sticky thread titled exactly that.

    You sound like a smart young guy but you've been given flawed advice and are obviously not prepared for this. It doesn't matter if you bought your gear already. Set it aside, it won't go bad. You commented that you have a lot of natural gains yet to make. Well, do just that. Visit the Nutrition Forum here and have your diet analyzed by the Vets. It's free advice basically from Nutritionists. Then visit Marcus's Diary for some modern, hardcore training advice. I'd bet you could really blow up with the right combination of those two elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Seriously not smart at your age. Your HPTA is not fully developed and your endogenous testosterone is probably at its peak right now. Why F with it and risk a ton of issues unnecessarily? There are so many horror stories here regarding the young and steroids . Matter of fact, take the time to read the sticky thread titled exactly that.

    You sound like a smart young guy but you've been given flawed advice and are obviously not prepared for this. It doesn't matter if you bought your gear already. Set it aside, it won't go bad. You commented that you have a lot of natural gains yet to make. Well, do just that. Visit the Nutrition Forum here and have your diet analyzed by the Vets. It's free advice basically from Nutritionists. Then visit Marcus's Diary for some modern, hardcore training advice. I'd bet you could really blow up with the right combination of those two elements.
    ^^^Listen to everything this man tells you. He is in far better condition than your friends are, guaranteed. He knows more about diet, training, and anabolic cycling than many people. You simply aren't aware of the potential damage you could do to yourself. Your friends may appear fine but that doesn't mean they won't have troubles down the road.

    There are plenty of young guys on this forum your age asking for help to fix problems created by cycling too young. They too thought they would recover fine with one or two cycles. They found out the hard way that's not always true.

    Do yourself and your body a favor and hold off for a few more years and continue to train naturally.
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    That's the response I was afraid I would hear. Where can I find that thread? And where can I find Marcus's modern training? And honestly I feel like my T levels are really high. I feel like a ****ing beast every day in the gym (like I'm on roids already) and I get where you're coming from. I also have good genetics and was one of the strongest kids all throughout high school. I suppose I could wait, but how long should I wait then? I can hardly sleep at night I'm so excited to get the gear, it's gonna be damn hard to hold out. I'll definitely check out the nutrition forum and post my diet on there. I've always eaten really healthy but only got my diet spot on 6 weeks ago so that's another reason why waiting could be a good idea. I still haven't gotten the chance to bulk with my perfect/good diet yet(I just started bulking yesterday). I have been concerned with hitting my max genetic potential for awhile now and I'm pretty sure that I'd hit that within the next 12 months.
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    Blesdawg here's the thread:

    The young and Steroids

    Look, we all understand how you feel but you said it yourself, you feel like a beast with high T levels anyway. And guess what, they probably are. Run with it and take the advice we gave you. And BTW, the knowledgeable member above is a licensed physician (he hates it when I rat him out) and can talk us both into the ground on the subject. Listen up. Keep doing what your doing. Stick around here, read, contribute and learn.

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    Thanks for the replies. Could you point me in the right direction of other kids that messed up their hormones? I need some extra motivation to hold off.

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    He posted it right above, just click the link. Theirs more inside than the first post just keep reading.
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    Listen to these guys!

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