Test came back super low (142) after long cycle and heavy pct. What's going on?

**mds7790** · 12-02-2013, 05:09 PM

Stats:
Age: 24
Lifting experience: 3 years.
Starting weight 105 lbs (I know...)
Height, 5'2"
Weight 145 on cycle 132 off.
Bodyfat: 12%

I ran the following.

Test Enanthate 1-12 400MG/week
Dbol 1-4 25MG/day
Deca 1-12 200MG/week
Arimidex 1 EOD throughout cycle.

PCT
HCGenerate 1 month
Clomid 100/100/50/50/50
nolva 50/50/25/25/25

Test levels came back 142. Super low libido; can't maintain Erection but still have the desire to have sex.

What's going on?

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 05:16 PM

Welcome,

142 what? lb/gal?

List your reference range as well and exactly how long you waited after PCT to test your results. Also need your baseline serum.

**mds7790** · 12-02-2013, 05:34 PM

Hi there! My doc just called and told me it was that. I am assuming that is the serum test? 142 ng/dl

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 05:36 PM

Aright. You need to provide more info, mds. Contact the doc and have him/her send you full lab results.

To verify recovery, you will need your baseline blood work results. (Blood work prior to cycling steroids )

If you do not have your baseline, you cannot verify recovery. You can only determine if you're hypogonadal. So you need to provide testosterone , LH and FSH results.

Let us know when you have these.

**mds7790** · 12-02-2013, 05:51 PM

I will try to get those ASAP! But for the moment, let me say that my base was 598 ng/dl.

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 05:53 PM

How long after PCT did you test?

Looks like you did not recover and developed hypogonadism.

**mds7790** · 12-02-2013, 06:04 PM

It was about 3 weeks after my last PCT. What could have caused the lack of recovery?

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 06:09 PM

Many factors. Need blood work. Could be pituitary, testicular, etc. etc etc.

No blood work, no answers brother. No telling. LH and FSH will tell a lot and help start the search.

**mds7790** · 12-02-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Many factors. Need blood work. Could be pituitary, testicular, etc. etc etc.

No blood work, no answers brother. No telling. LH and FSH will tell a lot and help start the search.

Thank you. Awesome pic btw.

Anything I can do in the meantime to prevent losing any additional muscle mass?

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 06:16 PM

Why would you lose mass?

**Lunk1** · 12-02-2013, 06:16 PM

3 weeks is not long enough. I would wait 6 weeks min and especially after a Deca cyle..I would wait even longer. Try retesting in 3-4 weeks before you get bent about it!

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

3 weeks is not long enough. I would wait 6 weeks min and especially after a Deca cyle..I would wait even longer. Try retesting in 3-4 weeks before you get bent about it!

I agree with everything, however, even 3 weeks after PCT his levels should not come back this low. He supposedly boosted GnRH, LH and FSH and should have testosterone flowing already.

**Euroholic** · 12-02-2013, 07:11 PM

Is your pct products from the lion?

AD · 12-02-2013, 08:28 PM

what was your pre-cycle level?

**austinite** · 12-02-2013, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by AD

what was your pre-cycle level?

598 ng/dl.

AD · 12-02-2013, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

598 ng/dl.

dam, i am getting old

**DAAS** · 12-02-2013, 10:00 PM

should have used hcg on cycle. Did you wait 2 weeks after your last injection to start your pct?
If not your pct only lasted 1 week. not enough.

**DontTaseMeBro** · 12-03-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by AD

dam, i am getting old

ditto - I couldn't make 598 with 3 more balls.

**bass** · 12-03-2013, 02:19 PM

wow, that s terrible cycle for 24 year old, and terrible PCT!

**kelkel** · 12-03-2013, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by DontTaseMeBro

ditto - I couldn't make 598 with 3 more balls.

Me either.

Op, retest in another month or so.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 12-03-2013, 02:49 PM

I would look at the possibility of your PCT meds being garbage if nobody has mentioned that.

You mentioned you used a OTC test booster so your nolva/clomid being bunk or some type of OTC version wouldn't surprise me.

Just my speculation.

**Jonnyg419** · 12-04-2013, 07:05 PM

Dude I ran a very similar cycle to you last year with a similar PCT, except for the HCGenerate..that shit is garbage. I ran 25o iu shots of HCG while on cycle. After my cycle was done, my serum Test levels didn't return to normal for almost 6 months, don't want to scare you but everybody's biology is different. If another month goes by with these problems, run a second PCT and kick it off by blasting HCG, everybody has different methods, but the 5 days of 1000iu's a day jumpoff worked for me, followed by 6 weeks of clomid and nolva, 2 weeks after I finished that i got my blood work done and went from a serum of 172 to serum level of 911