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    Second Cycle/ Thanks for everything

    Hey guys!

    I just wanted to post this saying thank you for all of your support an knowledge given to me. I did my first and only cycle so far a year ago of test only-600mg a week and it changed my life. I have been lifting and training for some time but I developed a drug addiction that always tripped me up and a friend of mine introduced me to juice. I kept myself clean for three months and started and grew 30lbs in 10 weeks and kept almost all of it. I have been clean and researching and training every day since. I'm looking to do my second cycle in a few weeks and it's gonna look like this:

    1-12 test e 600/week
    1-4 dbol 30mg/day
    Arimidex as needed .5e3d
    Liv52 suggested dose

    Pct
    Hcg 2 weeks before end of cycle 1500 3x a week, 1week 15003x a week and 1st week of pct 1500 2x
    Day 1-28 Clomid 100mg ED
    Day 1-28 Nolva 20mg ED

    I'm pretty stoked! I also have 2 10ml bottles of masteron prop 100 laying around but I'm not sure if I should save them or whatnot.

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    5'10"
    225lb
    ~16%bf

    Any comments suggestions would be great.

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    your second cycle at 22, that's terrible! and that's a terrible cycle and PCT.

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    I would cut 2-4% b/f before cycling, but other than that looks just like what I'm on right now.

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    OP you can take my advice or listen to another 22 year old. its like blind leading a blind! its your life, its your call.

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    I realize I am too young, the first cycle was not smart but it did help me get my life together. That was a year ago and I figured I already started so might as well keep going. Thank you for your replies though. The clomid dosages were off I realize but besides that I am not sure what is off. I haven't ordered yet so I might hold off a while but I don't see the harm given I have already cycled and have what I thought was a good pct. thanks guys!

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    so you want to cut off your leg just because you cut off your arm a year ago?! i totally disagree with your logic, if you caused some damage to your body in the past why add more damage to it? let your body finish its natural cycle so you don't end up on TRT at a young age, and God knows what a long term TRT can do to a person! think about it. you still have time to stop.

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    Bass, given my stats and experience and situation, what age would in your opinion be acceptable to start cycling again?

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    25 and up. read this, very short read but its packed with life saving information.

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    Thank you man. I appreciate it. No promises that I'll wait til 25, this has become my love, but I will hold off. I'll be around and in a few years I'll be back ready to kick ass.

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    I'm 22, this is my 2nd cycle and I hold a B.S. In Nutritional Science, Criminal justice and a minor in Civil Eng. and Kinesiology. I have wrote over 240 nutrition plans, and know a lot more than most at any age. By no means am I an expert and by no means am I insulting anyone. But when I look at the fact of him already doing a cycle for me to tell him anything other than what I would do myself would be ignorant. I do agree that this age is to young, that being said he knows the risk and he's already took the plunge.

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    Steroids are a game, a game you play with your body. It's a simple equation, risk vs. reward. What is acceptable to you? Factor in everything and their are a lot of risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim3432 View Post
    I'm 22, this is my 2nd cycle and I hold a B.S. In Nutritional Science, Criminal justice and a minor in Civil Eng. and Kinesiology. I have wrote over 240 nutrition plans, and know a lot more than most at any age. By no means am I an expert and by no means am I insulting anyone. But when I look at the fact of him already doing a cycle for me to tell him anything other than what I would do myself would be ignorant. I do agree that this age is to young, that being said he knows the risk and he's already took the plunge.
    you are wrong, we've convinced many youngsters who thought they knew the risks to stop, and they did!

    EricJay, sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, and I am confident you'll do the right thing. enjoy life for now, you have plenty of time to cycle later on. the last thing you want is to end up on TRT at a young age. TRT is not something you want to look forward to, its a life time medical treatment, 4-5 shots a week (test and hCG ), and allot of money. do it right so you can enjoy life.

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    I don't know half as much as these guys here about steroids but you would have a hard time finding someone who knows more about drug addiction than me my friend. This is a dangerous game that you're playing as it is for me. This is a drug after all and it can be abused especially if you were anything like I was. My advise is to get some distance from the other shit by putting a few years clean time in. Glad you're sober, stick with people who are too.

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    This is what I mean, thank you for everyone's help. This site friken rocks. Not a day goes by that I don't spend at least an hour or two researching and reading these forums, and yeah I am young, but when I do decide do start again I know you bros will help me out. I will keep doing what I'm doing and when the time is right, it's right. I'll keep everyone posted when I get at it again. Best of luck to everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericjay View Post
    This is what I mean, thank you for everyone's help. This site friken rocks. Not a day goes by that I don't spend at least an hour or two researching and reading these forums, and yeah I am young, but when I do decide do start again I know you bros will help me out. I will keep doing what I'm doing and when the time is right, it's right. I'll keep everyone posted when I get at it again. Best of luck to everyone!
    when you are ready we'll be here to guide you step by step to do it safely. here is something to spend time on, these videos opened my eyes to so much, made me understand how my body works, and what I need to do to get my diet right. trust me you'll be hooked on these videos, I watched them many times and still learn something new. here they are if you haven't seen them yet.

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