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This will be my 3rd cycle and I've got 30ml of test 20ml of deca and 100 10mg dbol. I plan on doing 600mg test per week and 400mg of deca for 12 weeks and 30mg of dbol for first 4 weeks, I usually get my pct from ar-r but never done a 19nor before so do I need caber or something else instead of liqudex and what do I dose it at?
Thanks
Caber for the prolactin from deca. And stop deca 2 weeks before test because of the very long ester. Good luck!
third cycle at 22!
3rd cycle at 22 man, you may want to slow your roll and educate yourself a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junk bomb
caber/prami will handle prolactin induced gyno, but you'll still want to run an AI for estrogen control. By telling you this, I am in no way condoning the use of steroids at your age.
What are your stats? What kinds of pct have you run and have you checked bloodwork? You should be concerned about your hpta.
I was unable to see your age because I am a new member but Deca shuts you down hard and at 22 that is just asking for problems in the future.
I think its too late for that, this is his third cycle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ericjay
I'm actually 24 now but started at 22, my stats are 88kg 6ft 14% bf and previous cycles were test e, 2nd was test e and d Bol. I've had bloodwork done and everything was fine.
I do my research, but was just making sure I need both caber/prami and also liqudex?
Not both caber/prami.. choose one. I've only used prami and like it, but you have to ramp up very slowly or the sides can be quite unenjoyable..
adex is fine you can do .25eod. Or aromasin at 25mg/ed
Ok thanks mate, that's the answer I was looking for. What do you start your dosage of prami and what do you up it to?
Well, first time I did it I started at .25 and I got extremely sick. Some are fine starting at that dose but not me. So I started at about half of that for a couple days, then up to .25, and then slowly increased the doses until at .5.. great stuff. Again, can't speak to caber since I've never run it. I actually have some, but never used it.
I'm gonna strongly recommend our nutrition forum you. You either started AAS way too light or need to learn how to diet properly.
When are you planning on starting your cycle?
Starting the cycle in early February, I read the nutritional section all the time.
Why do you think I've started to light? Or don't know how to diet???
I think BIB is referring to your stats and the thought that at 88kg (194lbs) at 6ft 14% bf, as well as your age, you have the ability to reach beyond where you are now with proper nutrition and training.
Probably could get a lower bf% naturally which I'm in the process of doing now but before I started training (4 years ago) I was weighing 72kg so i think I know a bit about dieting.
Instead of trying to say I'm not heavy enough or I've done a shit job why not help me answer my question?
Thought I did that bro. What question remains unanswered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Junk bomb
With all due respect 4 years and 2 cycles to gain 16kg indicates, as I said above, a lack of knowledge OR a lack of application.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junk bomb
So, I am trying to assist whilst your question has been answered elsewhere. But sounds like you have your nutrition sorted.
Good luck.
OP does have a good physique.