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    First time stacking Tren and Test

    i have done four cycles of Test in the past. I want to do Test/Tren, I'm aware of the risk and all that.
    Here are my thoughts on how about doing it, from what i gathered:

    Week 1-10 250mg/week test ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    Week 2-7 375mg/week tren ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    should i do these injections on the same day?
    Week 2-7 0.5mg/week cabergoline (2x week)

    I know many people say to try tren acetate first, but all my source had was ethanate, so thats what I ended up with..

    Am i playing it to safe, are the mg/week to low?

    I'm a little lost with the pct, should i just do the one i normal do for a test cycle?
    or should i just run caber longer? Also what if i cant get a hold of caber, whats a good alternative? OH! i should note: i have the test and tren, im working on trying the get the Caber, thus my previous question.

    Is there anything I am missing here? Ive researched this a bunch and I dont want to screw it up.

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    Four cycles already and only 21, well at least you're keeping doctors and TRT centers employed. Thank you.

    No AI?
    Why are you running the long esters for a short time frame?
    Doses aren't unreasonable but the proposal falls short on length of cycle.
    HCG?

    If you've done a ton of research, how do you not know what to use for PCT?

    When was your last blood work? When did your last cycle end? Are you taking enough time off between cycles?

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    sorry not good with the whole forums thing.
    Last edited by sammich3d; 12-08-2013 at 11:07 PM.

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    Why 725mg of tren a week?
    Stats?
    Goals?
    Last edited by Roidrage13; 12-08-2013 at 10:54 PM.

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    And about running long esters for short time frame, am i playing that to safe as well?

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    This why i posted this, im not able to find a clear answer.

    I never did more than 12 weeks of test.

    And isn't i dont have any idea for the pct, everyone says something different for the pct. One post i read just said to take caber longer.
    The pct i normal use is Tamoxifen Citrate.

    I was blood tested over the summer due to Lyme disease. Last cycle ended around end of March.

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    You will still need an AI.

    PCT should still be tamoxifen AND clomid.

    I personally won't run long esters less than 12 weeks.

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    Alright AI check and Clomid check. Thank you very much!!

    okay so i can probably sell the tren ethanate. And ill do what i can dig up some tren acetate.

    so would it be more like this for the tren/test

    Week 1-12 250mg/week test ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    Week 2-7 375mg/week tren acetate (2x week) (100mg/ml) or should this now be EOD 75mg
    should i do these injections on the same day?

    now would you recommend i add extra two weeks to each? or should i up the mg/week and keep the weeks the same?

    by the way i really appreciate you answering these questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d
    Alright AI check and Clomid check. Thank you very much!!

    okay so i can probably sell the tren ethanate. And ill do what i can dig up some tren acetate.

    so would it be more like this for the tren/test

    Week 1-12 250mg/week test ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    Week 2-7 375mg/week tren acetate (2x week) (100mg/ml) or should this now be EOD 75mg
    should i do these injections on the same day?

    now would you recommend i add extra two weeks to each? or should i up the mg/week and keep the weeks the same?

    by the way i really appreciate you answering these questions.
    My preference for tren is trenE. I get greater side effects from the shorter ester (Ace) and the PIP is more intense. If it was my cycle, I'd run trenE at 600-800mg/wk and testE at the same dose or slightly lower (500-600mg/wk). Some guys prefer higher tren than test, others prefer the opposite. I've done both but the doses were so similar I didn't notice much of a difference. High doses of tren, in addition to hyperhydrosis and insomnia, can reduce your libido, which is why many guys will run their test slightly higher.

    Caber is easier for me (the sides on prami are intolerable) but if you keep your E2 managed well with an AI, you may not need as much caber/prami.

    If your trenA is 100mg/ml, I'd dose EOD at 1ml (100mg) per administration. With testE, run it for 12 weeks. You can go 8-12 with trenA. If this is your first tren use, keep the dose to 8 weeks or less to see how well you handle it.

    Drink lots of water with tren!!! The hyperhydrosis and tren itself can dehydrate you and put additional strain on kidney function. Drink plenty of water and I always add taurine to my tren cycles.

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    okay so do you do the TrenE with the TestE twice a week each for 12 weeks? TrenE is 300-400mg an injection, TestE 250-300mg an injection? i just want to be clear.

    And then for the TrenA route, do the TrenA for weeks 8-12 eod 100mg and TestE 250-300 mg twice a week to equal 500-600mg/wk?

    last question, do you do the injections on the same day? and will it be the Same injection spot?
    Last edited by sammich3d; 12-09-2013 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d
    okay so do you do the TrenE with the TestE twice a week each for 12 weeks? TrenE is 300-400mg an injection, TestE 250-300mg an injection? i just want to be clear.

    And then for the TrenA route, do the TrenA for weeks 8-12 eod 100mg and TestE 250-300 mg twice a week to equal 500-600mg/wk?

    last question, do you do the injections on the same day? and will it be the Same injection spot?
    For the long esters, EOD or MWF are the schedules I prefer. I load everything into one syringe (if it fits) and inject. If the volume is greater than 3ml, I split it into two syringes.

    I usually have up to 10 injection areas I rotate between (left and right sides of the following)
    - pecs
    - delts
    - glutes
    - quads
    - traps

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    Alrighty, thank you for everything!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d
    okay so do you do the TrenE with the TestE twice a week each for 12 weeks? TrenE is 300-400mg an injection, TestE 250-300mg an injection? i just want to be clear. And then for the TrenA route, do the TrenA for weeks 8-12 eod 100mg and TestE 250-300 mg twice a week to equal 500-600mg/wk? last question, do you do the injections on the same day? and will it be the Same injection spot?
    If you're running say 500mg/wk test and 600mg/wk tren, and the test is 250mg/ml and the tren is 300mg/ml (little confused on the doses from your post) then you would draw 1 ml of each 2x/wk and yes, you can mix them in the same syringe.

    Best bet is to rotate injection spots. Glute/delt/quad

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    ^^ or more spots if you can

    I'm a 3 spot guy.. Which can be challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d
    Alrighty, thank you for everything!!!
    Good luck, be safe. Stay well hydrated. Tren and mast are my two favorite compounds but both can be very harsh and be sure to make yourself fully aware of tren's side effects. It's certainly not a compound to be taken lightly.

    Remember the AI to keep your E2 under control and it will assist you in the libido suppressing effects of tren some men experience.

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    Great posting... questions and answers. Looking to run test and tren some day. Always good to see what people are doing.

    JP

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d View Post
    okay so do you do the TrenE with the TestE twice a week each for 12 weeks? TrenE is 300-400mg an injection, TestE 250-300mg an injection? i just want to be clear.

    And then for the TrenA route, do the TrenA for weeks 8-12 eod 100mg and TestE 250-300 mg twice a week to equal 500-600mg/wk?

    last question, do you do the injections on the same day? and will it be the Same injection spot?
    If you run tren e and test e my advice is to stop tren 2 weeks before test

    So 14 weeks for test and 12 for tren
    Just put them in the same barrel and pin
    A ml of each twice a week ie
    Monday and Thursday with pct starting 2 weeks after last pin

    If you run tren a then run it with test p
    This would need to be pinned eod together and I woul run the tren for 8 weeks and test for 10 with pct starting 3 days after last pin

    Hcg 2 x 250iu ew

    Standard clomid and Nolva for pct

    Adex .25 eod

    Hope this helps!!

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    could you guys give me a list of 100% Real legit sites where I can buy without a doubt 100% REAL Trenbolone Acetate? I have bought steroids and HGH in the past and got ripped off because every single site that I bought from scammed me by giving me a fake product and I don't want to waste my hard earned money and I really need this.

    Also in January 2007 I started buying GNC Brand DHEA without knowing that it was a steroid. I don't remember why I bought it or chose to try it out, but I did and without knowing at first I did not know that it was a steroid. The effects of DHEA were amazing, within literally a second of swallowing just one 25mg or 50 mg pill I could feel the euphoric and superman feeling of a steroid engulf my body. Within just a few seconds my walking was more explosive. My movements were suddenly explosive and quicker, walking was easier and I felt lighter. Since about 2009, after I finished my last bottle I have not been able to find any more DHEA that gives these effects. I have bought so many GNC bottles and DHEA from other companies and all of them except for select GNC DHEA bottles are that "Time Released" crap. I just got a DHEA bottle in the mail today from GNC and it still does not give me any effect what so ever. I am very disappointed and I figure that finding the DHEA manufactured in 2006/2007 is now virtually impossible. No where in the world can I find DHEA as it once was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cross0ver112
    could you guys give me a list of 100% Real legit sites where I can buy without a doubt 100% REAL Trenbolone Acetate? I have bought steroids and HGH in the past and got ripped off because every single site that I bought from scammed me by giving me a fake product and I don't want to waste my hard earned money and I really need this.

    Also in January 2007 I started buying GNC Brand DHEA without knowing that it was a steroid. I don't remember why I bought it or chose to try it out, but I did and without knowing at first I did not know that it was a steroid. The effects of DHEA were amazing, within literally a second of swallowing just one 25mg or 50 mg pill I could feel the euphoric and superman feeling of a steroid engulf my body. Within just a few seconds my walking was more explosive. My movements were suddenly explosive and quicker, walking was easier and I felt lighter. Since about 2009, after I finished my last bottle I have not been able to find any more DHEA that gives these effects. I have bought so many GNC bottles and DHEA from other companies and all of them except for select GNC DHEA bottles are that "Time Released" crap. I just got a DHEA bottle in the mail today from GNC and it still does not give me any effect what so ever. I am very disappointed and I figure that finding the DHEA manufactured in 2006/2007 is now virtually impossible. No where in the world can I find DHEA as it once was.
    Read the rules please! This is NOT a source board. Find the gear on your own time, not here.

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    When you injected Trenbolone Acetate did you instantaneously feel it throughout your body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cross0ver112 View Post
    When you injected Trenbolone Acetate did you instantaneously feel it throughout your body?
    yeah, about 5 minutes after my injection I felt like Superman..... WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by cross0ver112 View Post
    When you injected Trenbolone Acetate did you instantaneously feel it throughout your body?
    Only when I accidentally nicked a vein!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammich3d View Post
    i have done four cycles of Test in the past. I want to do Test/Tren, I'm aware of the risk and all that.
    Here are my thoughts on how about doing it, from what i gathered:

    Week 1-10 250mg/week test ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    Week 2-7 375mg/week tren ethanate (2x week) (250mg/ml)
    should i do these injections on the same day?
    Week 2-7 0.5mg/week cabergoline (2x week)

    I know many people say to try tren acetate first, but all my source had was ethanate, so thats what I ended up with..

    Am i playing it to safe, are the mg/week to low?

    I'm a little lost with the pct, should i just do the one i normal do for a test cycle?
    or should i just run caber longer? Also what if i cant get a hold of caber, whats a good alternative? OH! i should note: i have the test and tren, im working on trying the get the Caber, thus my previous question.

    Is there anything I am missing here? Ive researched this a bunch and I dont want to screw it up.
    I love test and tren Personally I like Tren A, but if that's all you can get your hands on.. As long as you know the risk and that it's a longer ester. Yes you can take them both on the same day. The dosage seems fine, it's a good start.

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